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Fossil is missing link in elephant lineage
U of Michigan ^ | Oct. 31, 2006 | Anon

Posted on 11/02/2006 3:42:59 AM PST by Pharmboy


The teeth of the newly described Eritreum melakeghebrekristosi are a tip-off to
its position as a missing link in the elephant family tree.

ANN ARBOR, Mich.—A pig-sized, tusked creature that roamed the earth some 27 million years ago represents a missing link between the oldest known relatives of elephants and the more recent group from which modern elephants descended, an international team that includes University of Michigan paleontologist William J. Sanders has found.

The teeth of the newly described Eritreum melakeghebrekristosi are a tip-off to its position as a missing link in the elephant family tree.

The group's findings, to be published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggest that mastodons and the ancestors of elephants originated in Africa, in contrast to mammals such as rhinos, giraffes and antelopes, which had their origins in Europe and Asia and migrated into Africa. The dating of the new fossil, discovered in the East African country of Eritrea, also pushes the origins of elephants and mastodons five million years farther into the past than previous records, Sanders said.

From 35 to 25 million years ago, representatives of the group known as proboscideans (which includes elephants, mastodons and their close relatives) lived only in Africa and Arabia, and most of them were palaeomastodonts. These animals were shorter and smaller than today's elephants, with short trunks and tusks and simple teeth that were all in place at the same time, as human adult teeth are.

After 25 million years ago, larger proboscideans such as mastodons and gomphotheres—the ancestors of modern elephants—dominated the scene. Elephant-sized, with long tusks and trunks, these advanced proboscidans had more complex teeth that emerged more slowly, so that each quadrant of the mouth had only one or two functional teeth in place at a time.

"The new fossil from Eritrea is important because it shows aspects of dental anatomy in common with the advanced group, including molars with more cusps and complex crowns and the delayed maturation and emergence of molars," said Sanders, an assistant research scientist in the U-M Museum of Paleontology. But the creature that the new fossil represents also had characteristics in common with palaeomastodonts, namely smaller body size and a jaw structure that suggests shorter tusks and trunk.

"In age and anatomy it is exactly the sort of intermediate evolutionists would expect to bridge the gap between archaic and advanced proboscideans," Sanders said.

In addition to Sanders, the research team included Jeheskel Shoshani of the University of Asmara in Eritrea and the Elephant Research Foundation in Bloomfield Hills, Mich.; Robert Walter of Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, Penn.; Michael Abraha and Tesfalidet Ghirmai of the Eritrean Ministry of Mines and Energy; Seife Berhe of Global Resources in Asmara, Eritrea; Pascal Tassy of the Museum National d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris; Gary Marchant of the Elephant Research Foundation; Yosief Libsekal of the National Museum of Eritrea; and Dietmar Zinner of Deutsches Primatenzentrum in Gottingen, Germany.

Sanders received financial support for participation in the project from a Scott Turner Award from the U-M Department of Geological Sciences.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: crevolist; evolution; missinglink; pachyderm
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To: Pharmboy

please take me off list


21 posted on 11/02/2006 9:22:55 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin
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To: Pharmboy

Simply amazing what can be determined by a few teeth or a couple of bones.


22 posted on 11/02/2006 9:27:02 PM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Dustbunny
Simply amazing what can be determined by a few teeth or a couple of bones

Do you mean something like this? /sarc>

illusion of transition
23 posted on 11/02/2006 9:40:19 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Pharmboy
"In age and anatomy it is exactly the sort of intermediate evolutionists would expect to bridge the gap between archaic and advanced proboscideans," Sanders said.

Well, except that evolutionists don't usually predict "exactly" the sort of intermediate to be found. In fact, Charles Darwin said it this way....

"Hence in all such cases, we should be unable to recognise the parent-form of any two or more species, even if we closely compared the structure of the parent with that of its modified descendants, unless at the same time we had a nearly perfect chain of the intermediate links." - Origin of Species p281 rev1

With a prediction so non-specific, simple species variation can easily be mistaken for intermediates. Thus mistaking common design for common descent.

24 posted on 11/02/2006 11:43:45 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: From many - one.
What a shame. I’ll miss the Crevo threads. End of an era. I guess any thread about evolution on FR has now become an echo chamber.
25 posted on 11/02/2006 11:55:09 PM PST by Gerfang
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To: Right in Wisconsin

What list?


26 posted on 11/03/2006 3:15:50 AM PST by Pharmboy (Vote American, not Democrat.)
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To: RunningWolf

While the fishies wanted to jump out of the water to be on land, their descendants wanted to jump off the land to be back in water!

Go figger!

Guesswork alert!!

http://www.explorebiodiversity.com/Hawaii/BiodiversityForgotten/Wildlife/cetaceans/evolution.htm


27 posted on 11/03/2006 4:08:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Pharmboy
A pig-sized, tusked creature ....

I don't know what size of pigs live around them, but THIS dude would produce bacon you could use for a belt!

28 posted on 11/03/2006 4:10:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Pharmboy
A pig-sized, tusked creature that roamed the earth some 27 million years ago represents a missing link between the oldest known relatives of elephants and the more recent group from which modern elephants descended

Older Group ... alleged missing link ... Recent Group

The dating of the new fossil, discovered in the East African country of Eritrea, also pushes the origins of elephants and mastodons five million years farther into the past

If alleged missing LINK is between the two groups, then it CAN'T push back the age. Evo math at it's finest!

29 posted on 11/03/2006 4:29:08 AM PST by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: Pharmboy

When this generation's skeletons are excavated years from now, we'll be seen as a new species (maybe several) because some of us have had braces or had their wisdom teeth removed; others have had teeth whitening or {shudder} some have had their teeth sharpened, diamonds implanted. Some new species even had gold embedded in their teeth... an unexpected development and a new missing link!


30 posted on 11/03/2006 6:25:36 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: Gerfang

We've sort of been read out.

If you want the background start here, post 608, then skip to the 650's

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725737/posts?q=1&&page=601


31 posted on 11/03/2006 6:39:51 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: RunningWolf

ROFLOL...... exactly.


32 posted on 11/03/2006 8:10:09 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: editor-surveyor

They were reminding me of the Rain Man when an attempt was made to get him on a plane. The protests became more and more strident...and embarassing.

Not all of them, mind you. Just some.

This article is a simila pseudo-science. They don't talk about theorising that this is a missing link, or that it "could be". It is stated as obvious "facts" with phrases like "the tip off that it is..." etc.

Since I assume they have no DNA sample, they only have a bone of a creature that "looks like" an elephant. I thought we progressed past that baloney by the last half of the last century.

Apparently not.


33 posted on 11/03/2006 8:15:50 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: 4CJ

Complain about the reporters wording, not about the scientist, unless and until you read the scientfic paper itself.


34 posted on 11/03/2006 10:21:49 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: editor-surveyor
When a fellow named Jim Robinson made it clear that psuedo-science is not welcome on a site that belongs to a creationist.

Jim Robinson is a creationist?

He banned someone just for expressing belief in evolution?

35 posted on 11/03/2006 10:30:46 AM PST by wideminded
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To: wideminded

See the cites in my post 31.

Among other things PatrickHenry's home page was removed seemingly for being too effective a source for understanding evolution.

And scientists practicing in the field don't "believe in" evolution, we just consider it the best possible explanation for our data. Same as with any other scientific theory.


36 posted on 11/03/2006 11:26:14 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.
Complain about the reporters wording, not about the scientist, unless and until you read the scientfic paper itself.

The paper is not available yet - from the article: 'The group's findings, to be published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.'

So where did Ms. Ross-Flanigan obtain the information? From University of Michigan paleontologist William J. Sanders - she quotes him in the story. Specifically she wrote:

The dating of the new fossil, discovered in the East African country of Eritrea, also pushes the origins of elephants and mastodons five million years farther into the past than previous records, Sanders said.

37 posted on 11/03/2006 11:42:16 AM PST by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: From many - one.
Among other things PatrickHenry's home page was removed seemingly for being too effective a source for understanding evolution.

Oh?

Then why hASN'T THE CLONE/COPY OF IT NOT DISAPPEARED FROM another's HOMEPAGE?


Anyone want a used CAPSLOCK key?

38 posted on 11/03/2006 11:47:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: 4CJ

I am perfectly aware that the paper has not been published yet. That's why I was confident you had not read it.

As for the statement: reporters put quote marks around direct quotes. As best that was the reporter's understanding of what the scientist sid.


39 posted on 11/03/2006 11:53:44 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Pharmboy

2 more gaps in the fossil record.

A shorter species name would've been nice.


40 posted on 11/03/2006 11:56:26 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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