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1 posted on 11/01/2006 6:26:09 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

Bolid.


2 posted on 11/01/2006 6:29:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Swordmaker

The zoom climb must be real. I saw it on TV.


3 posted on 11/01/2006 6:34:26 PM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: Swordmaker
the government must then acknowledge the eyewitness missile reports.

They will acknowledge them just after they show the video of McVey and his buddy parking the Ryder truck in front of the Murrah Building "three minutes and six seconds" before the truck blew up. In other words, never.
4 posted on 11/01/2006 6:35:10 PM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Swordmaker
Muzzies did it and Clinton didn't want us to know.

The truth WILL OUT.

5 posted on 11/01/2006 6:37:23 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Swordmaker
We don't know who fired the missile. But if it was terrorist missile, and if that had become known, the country would have been alerted to the terrorist threat, and 9/11 might possibly have been averted.

Operation Clinton Cleanup takes one step forward...

6 posted on 11/01/2006 6:40:09 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Swordmaker
No matter. The material wanted will simply disappear.

Silly peasant.

9 posted on 11/01/2006 6:44:16 PM PST by stboz
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To: Swordmaker

Strange case.


10 posted on 11/01/2006 6:48:06 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Swordmaker

After looking at all the available evidence in the months after it happened, it became evident to me that TWA 800 was almost certainly brought down by a missile.

There were two possible theories: that the missile was fired by American forces taking part in a naval exercise in the area; or that the missile was fired by Muslim terrorists in a small boat.

I think the naval hypothesis is almost impossible. Too many people would have known what happened, and leaks would have been inevitable. There have been no such leaks from the Navy.

Why would clinton have covered it up? Because he wanted to protect the Navy, or because he wanted to avoid having to do something about Arab terrorists? Frankly, I think he would have been far more worried about having to deal with the terrorists than he would have been concerned about the Navy's reputation. He and hillary (and Chelsea too) hated the military.

On the other hand, he had a long record of avoiding any need to deal with terrorism by looking the other way.

Ray Lahr deserves our thanks for following this up. The current administration has shown no interest in uncovering clinton's crimes. Indeed, Bush's chosen director of the FBI, Mueller, awarded a special medal and promotion to the FBI agent who was in charge of covering up TWA 800 for clinton.


12 posted on 11/01/2006 6:57:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Swordmaker
...some day the truth will come out.
Sadly, with the way today's government handles scandals that deal with security (Berger,LosAlamos) nothing will be done.
I've followed CDR Donaldson's quest for the truth since shortly after he came on the scene back in 1999, only because of his simple explanation of CG and the impossibility.... that what the FBI said happen never made any sense to me. (sort of like the magic bullet theory)...
I also tried to keep up with the investigation for months after wards and what the US citizen was being told amounted to brain washing.....information was given at three month intervals and finally the CIA film was released. That was the cake topper for me...it was a cover up.
I've been asked why would the government want to cover it up since I've given my opinion in 1997 and my answer was always the same.......clinton. He didn't know what to do, not that he would have done anything anyway, and he sought the easy way out. The resulting actions he took since the first WTC bombings (1993) and ALL of the other nonfiction ACTIONS of this failure of a man only confirms my beliefs and has resulted in my intense hatred for him.


(now I'm going to have a late night cup of coffee and calm down a bit)


Doogle
18 posted on 11/01/2006 7:33:43 PM PST by Doogle (USAF 69-73...."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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Bump! Have to assume this judge was not a Clinton appointee.


21 posted on 11/01/2006 7:38:42 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: Swordmaker

The only conspiracy theory stupider than TWA800 is that Bush blew up the WTC.


22 posted on 11/01/2006 7:39:15 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Swordmaker

There is only one problem with Ray Lahr's missile dream.

There is no penetration from outside the airplane into the internal structure where the explosion began.

What Lahr and felon Sanders all the other frauds are arguing as their a priori case is something that the physical evidence conclusively proved was impossible.

As far as the "missile eyewitnesses," I have read the entire docket, all of the supporting documentation, and all of the witness statements and interview reports, as well as the expert analysis of the witness material. All of the claims of "missile witnesses" materially misrepresent what that body of information actually is, and materially misrepresent the utility of witnesses in air crash investigation.

The TWA 800 conspiracy buffs are the exact same kind of buffoon that believes "Loose Change." In some cases, they are the exact same buffoons.

Along with having read the entire material, which took me literally weeks, I have the necessary background to understand it. I have experience in aviation, a good grasp of aerospace engineering, and extensive experience with military weapons and high explosives. I do not believe any of the missile-conspiracy paranoids (including Lahr) can match my background in this odd combination of areas.

Lahr and the others who have been sponging off the bereaved family members they have bamboozled, ought to be ashamed of themselves. I love that Lahr whines in his release about the expense his conspiracy hobby has imposed on him. What does he care? He bums the money off widows and orphans anyway.

Bill Clinton was a lousy president; but if you want to hang a murder on him, start with Task Force Ranger in Somalia. This accident wasn't murder, it was something that had happened before. Unfortunately the FBI's half-assed investigation and institutional craving for publicity hammered the idea that this was a crime or terror act into many people. It wasn't.

The blast was not a missile because a missile cannot destroy a plane without leaving a mark. It was not a bomb because high-explosive leaves unmistakeable traces on metal that aren't erased by a subsequent crash and fire. These traces are clear as day on metal recovered from PA103. There are no such traces on metal recovered from TWA800. Bombs and missiles cannot destroy aircraft without leaving physical evidence.

Yeah, yeah... I'm a government shill... yeah. How unreasonable, not believing in a conspiracy theory that is belied by the physical evidence, when anyone can cherry-pick a few out of 720-odd witness statements to support the magical conspiracy theory.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

PS. If Lahr gets the information he asks for, what then? The famous "CIA animation" was used during an intermediate press conference. It played no part in the final conclusions of the Board (and the Board's experts and parties to the investigation). It doesn't change the physical evidence which shows that Lahr is a fraud. -C18F


26 posted on 11/01/2006 7:51:48 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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To: Swordmaker

Lots of good news coming out on a variety of subjects...


36 posted on 11/01/2006 8:10:36 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Swordmaker

btt


37 posted on 11/01/2006 8:16:56 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: Swordmaker; Robert A. Cook, PE
"Thus far, that input data has never been revealed. If it is released and the zoom-climb is disproved, the government must then acknowledge the eyewitness missile reports. Then the government must determine who fired the missile. "

This ia an absolutely false assertion.

43 posted on 11/01/2006 9:28:26 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Swordmaker

Read Peter Lance's book, "CoverUp." Chapter 5, TWA 800: Bojinka Fulfilled, is a must-read.


46 posted on 11/01/2006 10:16:25 PM PST by ntnychik
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TWA800 center wing tank ping.

How much money has already been spent on these studies?


47 posted on 11/01/2006 10:29:04 PM PST by phantomworker (If you travel far enough, one day you will recognize yourself coming down the road to meet yourself.)
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