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The latest gaming controversy - kissing boys
Stuff.com ^ | 10-30-06

Posted on 10/31/2006 9:18:44 AM PST by Snickering Hound

LOS ANGELES: The video game maker that sparked uproar over a hidden sex scene in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, is courting new controversy with its latest schoolyard title Canis Canem Edit (aka Bully) - featuring boys kissing.

That sexual twist came to light only after Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. released the Teen -rated game on October 17, having weathered protests from anti-violence advocates who tried unsuccessfully to block its sale to minors.

Bully stars 15-year-old Jimmy Hopkins, who must navigate cliques, fights and young love at his new boarding school, along the way winning brawls, completing missions and plying girls with candy and flowers in exchange for kisses.

But Jimmy can also use the same approach with boys. When Jimmy approaches a tall, blond boy with some flowers, the boy replies: "I'm hot. You're hot. Let's make out."

Gay video game enthusiasts have embraced Bully which was was the US's third top-selling game in the week ending October 27, according to figures from UBS.

Progress! wrote one reader of Gaygamer.net, who applauded the move by Take-Two's Rockstar Games studio.

Hot Gay Coffee, quipped another on the same site, referring to the controversial Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas sex scene that was dubbed Hot Coffee.

Others, however, were not so enthusiastic.

"I can't have my kids playing this game. This is morally reprehensible. GTA (Grand Theft Auto) is a real man's game, Bully is a disgrace," wrote a poster using the handle spideRRR on GameSpot.com.

RISKY BUSINESS

The inclusion of the explicit sex scene in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas also had some parents, along with regulators and lawmakers, fuming.

Take-Two was forced to pull that game from store shelves at the cost of millions of dollars to the company because it had not disclosed the existence of the scene.

The Grand Theft Auto series has reaped revenue in excess of $US1.5 billion ($NZ2.3b), around 30 percent of Take-Two's sales in the period since the first game's debut in 2001, said Michael Pachter, a video game analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities.

In Bully the controversial scene was not hidden - but it also was not advertised to consumers.

The video game industry rating board considered the boy-kissing-boy scenes in Bully before assigning it a Teen rating, spokesman Eliot Mizrachi said.

A spokesman for Rockstar declined comment.

Brenda Brathwaite, a professor at Savannah College of Art & Design and author of Sex in Video Games, said gay, lesbian, bi-sexual or transgendered characters are "more and more the norm" on television and that Rockstar is in the vanguard of game makers to include this type of content.

Most video games target a young male audience and focus on shooting, racing or sports. Same-sex displays of affection are largely unexplored, although they are possible in Electronic Arts Inc.'s popular Sims titles and in online games like Second Life.

"It's symbolic that the diversity that's appearing in broader media is making its way to games in a way that's not insulting or necessarily sensationalistic," said Brathwaite.

But Pachter, the analyst, said considering the baggage Take-Two brings to the table after San Andreas, introducing a homosexual aspect to Bully was an unnecessary risk for the company to take.

"It doesn't glorify anything ... Do I think that many parents would have a problem with their kids seeing it? Yes."


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1 posted on 10/31/2006 9:18:45 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

So when you get AIDS and die on the game, you die forever, right?


2 posted on 10/31/2006 9:21:09 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Expect a lot of democrat poll-smoking between now and 11/7)
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To: Snickering Hound
Nothing like pushing the gay agenda with boys!

Now, it's got an exciting game and serves to desensitize boys kissing boys! How nice! Bet the pedophiles are cheering for this to be a big hit. Makes it easier for them to molest boys.
3 posted on 10/31/2006 9:21:23 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Snickering Hound

From what I read, some things were added into the game deliberately to piss Jack Thompson off (who may have come very close to talking himself into a jail cell after the last lawsuit he filed was thrown out).


4 posted on 10/31/2006 9:23:31 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Snickering Hound
In the games I play, you blow up space aliens or dugeon monsters. BOOM!

I have a merry Wizard staff
  I love it oh so well!
And anything gets in my path
  I blow it straight to Hell!

5 posted on 10/31/2006 9:23:41 AM PST by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: Snickering Hound
Gay video game enthusiasts have embraced Bully which was the US's third top-selling game

I believe the term is "Rough Trade".

6 posted on 10/31/2006 9:23:58 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Snickering Hound

More evidence -- as if any were needed -- that the so-called 'entertainment' industry is dominated by demented freaks.


7 posted on 10/31/2006 9:24:26 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Snickering Hound

Next week's headline (after teens start mowing these boys down): Video Game Featuring Boys Kissing Spurs Homophobic Behavior.


8 posted on 10/31/2006 9:26:48 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Snickering Hound
I was going to add this to my last post, but hit post instead of preview.

Anyways, one thing I don't understand, is why these parents are so worried when all many have to do is not give their kids the money to buy these games.

If the kids are able to get around the ratings system and buy the games, well the money is still coming from somewhere. $40-$50 a game - kids don't just magically produce that out of the air, and if they are saving up their allowance, destroying the game and throwing it in the trash is a very valuable lesson on how they should spend their money.
9 posted on 10/31/2006 9:27:05 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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"Bully stars 15-year-old Jimmy Hopkins, who must navigate cliques, fights and young love at his new boarding school, along the way winning brawls, completing missions and plying girls with candy and flowers in exchange for kisses."

Wow.
Wait'll Hollyweird gets hold of this "plot"!!

"But Jimmy can also use the same approach with boys. When Jimmy approaches a tall, blond boy with some flowers, the boy replies: 'I'm hot. You're hot. Let's make out.'"

Deep.

Hollyweird's remake of this himbo extravaganza will easily eclipse motion pictures of equal *substance* & the first to go.

...Brokeback Mountain.

10 posted on 10/31/2006 9:27:20 AM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: nmh

Nothing like pushing the gay agenda with boys!


Never forget that Homosexuality is a LEARNED behavior. Repeat this loud and often.


11 posted on 10/31/2006 9:28:02 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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To: Sofa King

Gay Video game PING!


12 posted on 10/31/2006 9:30:35 AM PST by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: 50sDad

Yep, if it's not "Hack, Slay and Leave Decay!" then its no fun for me.


13 posted on 10/31/2006 9:33:43 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Snickering Hound

Okay so we're all fine with driving a car over granny or, my favorite, crashing a helicopter into a group of pedestrians, but gay boys kissing is no good?


14 posted on 10/31/2006 9:44:05 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Snickering Hound; pcottraux; MikefromOhio; Irish_Thatcherite; JRios1968; darkangel82; ilovew; ...

"Bully stars 15-year-old Jimmy Hopkins, who must navigate cliques, fights and young love at his new boarding school, along the way winning brawls, completing missions and plying girls with candy and flowers in exchange for kisses."

Just Damn...

That's pretty sad when I get beat by freakin' video game characters...8^)


15 posted on 10/31/2006 9:48:19 AM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Snickering Hound

Guys kiss in a hidden scene in the game and people complain...the killing of hookers and intense violence gets no mention. Sounds a bit unhinged to me.


16 posted on 10/31/2006 10:14:01 AM PST by youthgonewild
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Hell you can get a hooker at any time in that game, have sex with her in your car, let her get out, kill her and take your money back.

And they are worried about THIS?

Give me a friggin break....


17 posted on 10/31/2006 10:20:19 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Herbal Remedies!! Man Purses!!! Stage Names!!!)
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To: youthgonewild; rzeznikj at stout
Guys kiss in a hidden scene in the game and people complain...the killing of hookers and intense violence gets no mention. Sounds a bit unhinged to me.

Great minds and whatnot....
18 posted on 10/31/2006 10:20:49 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Herbal Remedies!! Man Purses!!! Stage Names!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

I personally don't care about the game--I just figured it was an opportunity to present a wisecrack (IOW, for me to be the Thread Jester for once) 8^)


19 posted on 10/31/2006 10:35:08 AM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
plying girls with candy and flowers in exchange for kisses

What a sick pervert! :-P

20 posted on 10/31/2006 11:32:56 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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