1 posted on
10/30/2006 10:07:25 PM PST by
neverdem
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To: neverdem
2 posted on
10/30/2006 10:11:17 PM PST by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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3 posted on
10/30/2006 10:13:21 PM PST by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: neverdem
If this is true, then why do we have to teach our children to behave.
4 posted on
10/30/2006 10:13:58 PM PST by
svcw
To: neverdem
Of course, the Bible says that men are born with an innate sense of right and wrong. This scientist is not making some new revelation, as far Christians are concerned.
Paul's letter to the Romans, chapter 2 (nore especially verse 15 where Paul says that people who have NOT been taught the moral Law of God still instinctively know the basics of the moral Law of God)
14. For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15. in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16. on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
New American Standard Version
5 posted on
10/30/2006 10:16:08 PM PST by
DeweyCA
To: neverdem
7 posted on
10/30/2006 10:18:51 PM PST by
woofie
(If not this war then which one?)
To: neverdem
Primatologists like Frans de Waal have long argued that the roots of human morality are evident in social animals like apes and monkeys.So I wonder how they select their judges and lawmakers to legislate morality.
11 posted on
10/30/2006 11:43:20 PM PST by
taxesareforever
(Never forget Matt Maupin)
To: neverdem
"Primatologists like Frans de Waal have long argued that the roots of human morality are evident in social animals like apes and monkeys. The animals feelings of empathy and expectations of reciprocity are essential behaviors for mammalian group living and can be regarded as a counterpart of human morality." Uh, doc---it ain't just "primates". ANY animal species that has a group social structure (be it lions, wolves, elephants or buffalo) has evolved similar behavior.
To: neverdem
Yet that essential knowledge, generally assumed to come from parental teaching or religious or legal instruction, could turn out to have a quite different origin. Coulda,
Woulda,
Shoulda!
Never any FACTS; but PLENTY of ASSUMPTIONS!
15 posted on
10/31/2006 4:20:05 AM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: neverdem
Yet that essential knowledge, generally assumed to come from parental teaching or religious or legal instruction, could turn out to have a quite different origin. Nothing new here: move along...
Judges 21: 25
In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as he saw fit.
16 posted on
10/31/2006 4:22:08 AM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: neverdem
Both atheists and people belonging to a wide range of faiths make the same moral judgments...One would have to be completely blind of not only current events, but history in general to make such a foolish statement...and if the premise is foolish, then so too is the hypothesis.
Garbage in...garbage out.
21 posted on
10/31/2006 5:55:32 AM PST by
csense
To: neverdem
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
28 posted on
10/31/2006 6:27:46 AM PST by
azhenfud
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
To: neverdem
It's never been hard to figure out what's right and what's wrong. That's easy. The hard part comes when doing what's right comes at great cost - and doing what's wrong is easy...
31 posted on
10/31/2006 6:45:47 AM PST by
GOPJ
(In the War with radical Islam, it's not "for" or "against"-- it's victory or ruin.)
To: neverdem
Stalinists
Marxists
Chicoms
WW2 Japanese
Nazis
Khmer Rouge
NV communists
jihadists
Examples of 20th Century innate morality.
34 posted on
10/31/2006 6:57:24 AM PST by
jwalsh07
(PUNCH foley for Joe Negron!)
To: neverdem
To: neverdem
As I noted on another post, this is a rehash of a theory that has been around for decades, as put forth by people like Abe Maslow and Lawrence Kohlberg. Kohlberg argued that instead of teaching children rules and manners they should be allowed to reason out their own ideas about justice. His suggestions have been tried out in numerous school systems with disastrous results.
36 posted on
10/31/2006 7:03:52 AM PST by
joylyn
To: neverdem
Marc D. Hauser, a Harvard biologist needs to visit the inner city to see how stupid his assertions are.
37 posted on
10/31/2006 7:44:58 AM PST by
r9etb
To: neverdem
The law of the jungle is "kill or be killed"
Eons of human existanceion have softened that law and the process is the evolution of religion. For society to exist, the LOJ must be softened.
50 posted on
10/31/2006 12:24:23 PM PST by
bert
(K.E. N.P. get wise while yet you may)
To: neverdem
If there is even a sliver of evidence to support this, then I might have to re-examine my own ideas about the existence of natural law. Should make for some interesting philosophical discussions regarding the nature of morality and ethics.
51 posted on
10/31/2006 12:48:17 PM PST by
stacytec
(Nihilism, its whats for dinner)
To: neverdem
Ahh yes. Our children come hard wired through evolution to know right and wrong without parent intervention. All these wonderful flowers need is the opportunity to learn and they will blossom into wonderful actualized human beings.
Tell ya what - take this recycled 60's/70's liberal manure and spread it liberally on your garden and growth will happen.
The only parents that still believe this garbage are so self deluded that they are parents in title only. The exact opposite is true, or are there any parents out there who actually DID teach their little darlings to lie - and yet their moral compasses came up with it anyway...
55 posted on
10/31/2006 6:31:14 PM PST by
70times7
(Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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It's like watching Chinese contortionists. It would be interesting if the fools-who-think-they're-wise didn't have so much influence over the rest of us. Trying to have some kind of moral guidelines while rejecting God is like trying to - hmm, make sense out of a bad dream a schizophrenic had while on a triple dose of LSD. If there is no God, then each person has just as much right to decide "right" and "wrong" as anyone else. End of story.
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