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Australian Muslims rally behind cleric who defended rape (ROP alert)
Deutsche Presse-Agentur ^ | 10/28/06

Posted on 10/30/2006 9:47:29 AM PST by presidio9

Sydney - A cleric who said women who didn't wear a veil were 'uncovered meat' asking to be raped will keep his job as the spiritual leader of Australia's 350,000 Muslims.

Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali was confirmed as Mufti of Australia on Friday after the governing body of Sydney's largest mosque rallied behind the Egyptian-born cleric.

'The board is satisfied with the notion that certain statements made by the mufti was misinterpreted,' Tom Zreika, head of the Lebanese Muslim Association, told local radio. Zreika said that as a sop to public opinion, al-Hilali wouldn't be preaching until he goes on the haj pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia in six weeks' time.

Prime Minister John Howard, who hand-picked al-Hilali for a 14-member Muslim advisory panel after the London bombings in June, said remarks in Arabic in a fasting-month sermon to 500 worshippers that compared unveiled women to food left for stray cats were 'appalling and reprehensible.'

Howard warned Muslims they risked a backlash from other Australians if they continued to back al-Hilali against mainstream opinion.

'If it is not resolved, then unfortunately people will run around saying 'Well, the reason they didn't get rid of him is because secretly some of them support his views,'' Howard said.

Others in his government have called on al-Hilali to be prosecuted for inciting sexual assault or even to be deported.

'If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden, or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem,' al-Hilali said.

In an address that was tape-recorded by The Australian newspaper, Al-Hilali said a woman who stayed home and was veiled would be safe from sexual assault. 'If she was in her room, in her home, in her hajib (veil), no problem would have occurred.'

The 66-year-old apologized for the comments, saying he had 'only intended to protect women's honour,' but he refused calls for him to resign.

A defiant al-Hilali, speaking amid cheering supporters as he emerged from Friday prayers at Sydney's Lakemba Mosque, said he would not be resigning until 'after we clean the White House first.'

The mufti has frequently referred to Howard, United States President George W Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair as the 'axis of evil.'

Al-Hilali has stirred controversy before. He has denied the Holocaust, defended suicide bombers, described as 'God's work' the 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States, and blamed Jews for 'all the wars and problems that threaten the peace and stability of all the world.'

Al-Hilali, who doesn't speak English despite having lived in Australia for 24 years, referred in his sermon to gang rapes in Sydney in 2000 that led to several Muslims being sentenced to long jail terms. He was critical of the judges, saying they had shown no mercy.

Only white women were victims, and they were told they were targeted because they were 'Aussie pigs.'

Howard, who had hoped an outcry over al-Hilali's defence of rape would force the mufti to resign, expressed frustration.

'What has to happen in relation to this man is that the issue has to be resolved by his own community,' Howard said. 'He was not expressing Australian values, I can say without fear of contradiction that what he said is repugnant to Australian values.'

Al-Hilaly, in his sermon, also caused offence by saying women were mostly to blame for adultery. 'When it comes to adultery, it's 90 per cent the woman's responsibility,' he said. 'Why? Because a woman possesses the weapon of seduction.'

Waleed Aly, a spokesman for the Islamic Council of Victoria, condemned al-Hilali and called for his resignation, saying his views sought to normalize immoral sexual behaviour.

'We would have liked to have seen some form of fairly strong censure just given the magnitude and the gravity of the comments,' Aly said.

But other prominent Australian Muslims refused to criticise the mufti. Imam Abdul Jalil Sajid, the chairman of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, who is visiting Australia, sprang to the mufti's defence. 'I know he is one of the greatest Muslim scholars on earth and Australia is blessed with him,' Sajid said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; islam; itsareligionofpeace; rape; religionofrape; rop
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To: HKMk23

If an arab national does get caught, the next stop is Gitmo, not a comfy bus ride back to Nogales. The point is, terrorists don't NEED to sneak in, so why would they?


41 posted on 10/30/2006 10:35:28 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

I think it's a national security issue. I posted one comment which you took exception to and that's fine, but don't expect me to not answer. Remember your first post to me was a question. The hijacking was done by you after a one sentence comment after I had expressed my point on Islam which was after all the main topic at hand. I won't bother to post the various sites reporting strange goings on on our borders. It would be wasted on the audience reading it.


42 posted on 10/30/2006 10:37:39 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: presidio9

short of closing our airports to all arab men.



That would be a start and should have been done everyday since 9/12.

After all.... we don't want any stray cats attacking our uncovered meats.


43 posted on 10/30/2006 10:38:29 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: conservativecorner
I think it's a national security issue.

Stupidity is, of course, your right. It is an immigration issue. It may also be a criminal justice issue. It is definitely NOT a national security issue. Perhaps you are not clear on the concept. 19 of 19 9/11 hijackers entered this country legally. Fanatics who try to lump the Mexican border in with 9/11 are as bad as gay rights activists who try to lump their cause in with the Civil Rights Movement. Where are you posting from anyway?

44 posted on 10/30/2006 10:41:34 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
Al-Hilali, who doesn't speak English despite having lived in Australia for 24 years, referred in his sermon to gang rapes in Sydney in 2000 that led to several Muslims being sentenced to long jail terms. He was critical of the judges, saying they had shown no mercy.

No mercy? The pig is still breathing.
45 posted on 10/30/2006 10:41:47 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: TomasUSMC

BRAVO BUMP!


46 posted on 10/30/2006 10:42:02 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: presidio9

I hope the Aussies burn the s**t hole mosque to the ground, tar and feather and horsewhip this filthy piece of dung, and wipe their arses on pages of the Koran before his eyes.


47 posted on 10/30/2006 10:42:24 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: TomasUSMC
That would be a start and should have been done everyday since 9/12.

A nice idea, but given our dependace on foreign oil it is totally impractical. BTW, Bush 41 had an Arab White House Chief Of Staff.

48 posted on 10/30/2006 10:44:00 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
No, immigration policy is one issue, and illegal alien entry with no documentation is quite another. While one has been partially addressed although woefully inadequate, the other has not been addressed other than window dressing for the sheeple. Terrorists like water always take the direction of least Resistance. Legal entry has been addressed with some success with the 9 students recently hunted down for questioning and deportation. The border on the other hand is wide open, and all they need is a travel brochure to complete the farce.
49 posted on 10/30/2006 10:49:49 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner


Classic denial. The facts don't suit your agenda, so you ignore them. Again, arabs don't need to sneak into our country over the Mexican border. The fact that the nine Egyptian students were able to disappear for long enough to carry out a suicide attack only underscores this.

Answer the question: Where are you posting from?


50 posted on 10/30/2006 10:54:14 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
"Answer the question: Where are you posting from?"

Irrelevant. I'm an American who is demanding nothing less than was stated in our Constitution by our Founding Fathers concerning our borders. Period, and I don't give one rat's ass where any American lives because our entire country depends on the govt. protecting us. Not just in New York, Los Angeles and other large cities. To me, you stating that you live close to 9/11 site underscores how blind people are to the dangers this country faces.
51 posted on 10/30/2006 10:59:43 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: presidio9

Quite true. As I noted, I got your point, originally, it was just the idea of there actually BEING some elevated risk of being caught by BP that struck me funny. I kept thinking of that video where the House candidate from PA, Raj Bhakta (13th Dist.), was riding back and forth across the Rio Grande on an elephant accompanied by an eleven-piece mariachi band wailing away on the American shore.


52 posted on 10/30/2006 11:00:06 AM PST by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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To: conservativecorner

Unless you are willing to clarify, I am forced to interpret your response to mean that you are posting from somewhere that arabs have never herd of. Terrorism is not a threat to you. Sure Tim McVeigh types may bomb the heartland. Foreigners will always go for the most bang for the buck. That means NY, Washington, and possibly LA.

If you did live in NY, you might understand. I was working three floors from the top of 1 WTC as recently as the spring of 2001. I went to a couple of dozen funerals in September and October of that year. I walk by the pit every day. There are soldiers with rifles in front of my building, and in the transit system here. Terrorism is CONSTANTLY on my mind. When I see people like yourself using terrorism to advance your own unrelated political objectives, frankly, I find it extremely insulting.

FWIW, I support a wall, but I am smart enough tounderstand it has nothing to do with national security.


53 posted on 10/30/2006 11:08:27 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: The Blitherer

LOL Make sure you "fix him" so that his 72 virgins will remain eternally virginal.


54 posted on 10/30/2006 11:15:29 AM PST by TNdandelion
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To: Kozak

"Helping to make Moo's even more unwelcome in the Civilized world. Keep it up mate..."

Thank God they've made it impossible to do anything BUT kick their keisters out.


55 posted on 10/30/2006 11:26:44 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: presidio9

Dump this chump in the Outback...


56 posted on 10/30/2006 11:32:14 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: presidio9
"Closing our southern border will have zero effect on national security...."

Don't agree here.

"..Perhaps Mexicans are taking your jobs, or dilluting your culture, but they are not flying airplanes into buildings. Period."

Right on here.

57 posted on 10/30/2006 12:43:27 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: conservativecorner

"...potential terrorists in their bras."




So that's where they've been hiding! >:0


58 posted on 10/30/2006 3:17:24 PM PST by RedDogzRule
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To: presidio9

but given our dependace on foreign oil it is totally impractical



Given their dependence on our Protecting their lazy undefended ragheaded 7th century butts and our petro-dollars -

it would have been totally VERYpractical.


59 posted on 10/30/2006 3:33:07 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: presidio9
EXACTLY right !

Illegal Mexicans get caught and tossed back over and over ... no one cares -

A terrorist simply would not take the chance on accidentally getting caught when there are so many other ways to assure a successfully entry.
60 posted on 10/30/2006 5:29:26 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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