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Vampires, ghosts aren't real, says physicist
Associated Press ^ | 10/30/06 | SETH BORENSTEIN

Posted on 10/30/2006 6:16:04 AM PST by presidio9

Horror stories may be the place for vampires, ghosts and zombies. Just remember, they are not real, warns physicist Costas Efthimiou.

Obviously, you might say.

But Efthimiou, a professor at the University of Central Florida, points to surveys that show American gullibility for the supernatural.

Using science and math, Efthimiou explains why it is that ghosts cannot walk among us while also gliding through walls, like Patrick Swayze in the movie "Ghost."

That violates Newton's law of action and reaction. If ghosts walk, their feet apply force to the floor, but if they go through walls they are without substance, the professor says.

"So which is it? Are ghosts material or material-less?" he asks.

Zombies and vampires fare even worse under Efthimiou's skeptical microscope.

Efthimiou looked at the most prominent child-turned-zombie case that zombie aficionados cite - the 1989 case of a Haitian 17-year-old who was declared dead and then rose from the grave a day after the funeral and was considered a zombie. The boy, who never died but was paralyzed and could not communicate, had been poisoned with toxins from a relative of the deadly Japanese pufferfish, later research showed.

Efthimiou takes out the calculator to prove that if a vampire sucked one person's blood each month - turning each victim into an equally hungry vampire - after a couple of years there would be no people left, just vampires. He started his calculations with just one vampire and 537 million humans on Jan. 1, 1600 and shows that the human population would be down to zero by July 1602.

All this may seem obvious but, to Efthimiou and other scientists, the public often is not that skeptical. He points to reports from the National Science Foundation showing widespread belief in the supernatural and pseudosciences, such as astrology.

More than one in three Americans believe houses can be haunted, a 2005 Gallup poll showed. More than 20 per cent of Americans believe in witches and that people can communicate with the dead. TV shows such as "Medium" and "Ghost Whisperer" are popular.

"We're talking about a large fraction of the public that believes in subjects that scientists believe are out of the question," said Efthimiou. His paper is in an archive awaiting publication either in the journal Physics Education or the magazine Skeptical Inquirer, he said.

University of Maryland physics professor Bob Park, author of the book "Voodoo Science," said scientists have to keep telling the public what seems all-too-obvious.

"There are things that we need to point out that are crap," Park said.

It has gotten so bad, Park has a hard time watching movies these days.

Not Efthimiou, though, who liked the horror movie "The Ring."

"I have nothing against movies," he said. "I have nothing against people who like them, as long as they don't mix reality with fiction."

And Halloween? Both physicists will suspend disbelief when vampires, ghosts and zombies come to their doors on the night of Oct. 31.

"I give them candy and I feign fright," Park said. "They enjoy it, what the hell. The problem is the ones that never get over it."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backoffimascientist; buttheysurevotedem; ghosts; mastersoftheobvious; newtonwouldbesoproud; scoobydooparadigm
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1 posted on 10/30/2006 6:16:05 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Using science and math, Efthimiou explains why it is that ghosts cannot walk among us while also gliding through walls,...

That may be true on Halloween, and may even be true generally, BUT au contrare on November 7, from 7 AM thru at least 8 PM (and often a few hours after that, in places like Chicago).

2 posted on 10/30/2006 6:19:27 AM PST by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: presidio9

Seems kinda silly to use Newton's 2nd law to argue against ghosts.

After all, reportedly, ghosts are from a different plane of the universe than the physical world.


3 posted on 10/30/2006 6:21:22 AM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: presidio9
Anyone who has watched Scooby Doo knows that ghosts and monsters aren't real. Sheesh.
4 posted on 10/30/2006 6:22:09 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (I fear no root beer.)
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If there are no Zombies and Vampires, explain dem0rats!


5 posted on 10/30/2006 6:23:22 AM PST by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
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To: presidio9
Horror stories may be the place for vampires, ghosts and zombies. Just remember, they are not real, warns physicist Costas Efthimiou

Then explain this, professor:


6 posted on 10/30/2006 6:23:44 AM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: presidio9
Horror stories may be the place for vampires, ghosts and zombies. Just remember, they are not real, warns physicist Costas Efthimiou.

Doc, I've seen college faculty members. Are you absolutely sure about that?

7 posted on 10/30/2006 6:24:42 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: presidio9
Using science and math, Efthimiou explains why it is that ghosts cannot walk among us while also gliding through walls, like Patrick Swayze in the movie "Ghost."

I used to annoy my Wife (that was her favorite movie) by pointing out that, if Swayze the ghost can walk through walls and stick his head through the sides of trains, then he should fall right through the floor instead of walking on top if it.

Gotta love Hollywood and its inconsistencies.
8 posted on 10/30/2006 6:24:54 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God." (Psalm 53:1))
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To: WV Mountain Mama

I would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for those darn kids...


9 posted on 10/30/2006 6:25:25 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Expect a lot of democrat poll-smoking between now and 11/7)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

But Scooby Doo is real....I saw him at a theme park once....


10 posted on 10/30/2006 6:25:26 AM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: presidio9

Not real? I guess he's never been to a Democrat Convention.


11 posted on 10/30/2006 6:26:38 AM PST by stbdside
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To: WV Mountain Mama
"Anyone who has watched Scooby Doo knows that ghosts and monsters aren't real. Sheesh."

Ruh-roh... Yeah, it's always a greedy land developer behind that mask. Happens every episode...

12 posted on 10/30/2006 6:26:41 AM PST by Hatteras
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... he should fall right through the floor instead of walking on top if it.

Only if he is subject to gravity ...

13 posted on 10/30/2006 6:27:48 AM PST by TexGuy
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To: reagan_fanatic
then he should fall right through the floor instead of walking on top if it.

Why would he fall? Does gravity apply to ghosts? :)
14 posted on 10/30/2006 6:29:31 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: presidio9
Oh, there are scary blood-sucking evil monsters around all right.


15 posted on 10/30/2006 6:29:58 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: TexGuy

argghh....GMTA....


16 posted on 10/30/2006 6:30:01 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Paloma_55

The reason the vampires don't destroy all humanity is that the Edward van Sloans are busy driving stakes through their hearts. Even Dwight Frye knows that.


17 posted on 10/30/2006 6:30:32 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: presidio9
That violates Newton's law of action and reaction. If ghosts walk, their feet apply force to the floor, but if they go through walls they are without substance, the professor says. "So which is it? Are ghosts material or material-less?" he asks.

This from the franchise that told us that interstellar elephants can, in fact, be in two places at the same time? :)

Besides, everyone knows that ghosts don't walk around.
18 posted on 10/30/2006 6:30:32 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Paloma_55
For a scientist, he kinda missed that they were ghosts and could float.

I sure hope we spent tax dollars on this guy!
19 posted on 10/30/2006 6:30:57 AM PST by jrestrepo
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To: presidio9

Next thing, this doubting Thomas will be trying to tell us there is no Santa, Easter rabbit or tooth fairy.


20 posted on 10/30/2006 6:31:11 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Look for a Elephantastic party win ,so painful the dims charge us with abusing jackasses.)
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