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Another leading muslim speaks up...

And since this is in GCN, are there liberals listening finally?

Are they hearing the discussions of rapes, etc. These are not isloted imams. These are imams in big influential mosques.

1 posted on 10/29/2006 3:54:12 AM PST by EBH
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If a Christian had said that, the Left would be demanding his prosecution for committing a "hate crime." But Islam is permitted to oppose homosexuality with extreme methods.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 10/29/2006 3:57:55 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Gay man rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said, "It is disturbing that some British imams are endorsing the execution of gay and lesbian Muslims.

Anyone else notice an odd sense of denial in his quote?


3 posted on 10/29/2006 4:03:38 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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The poor liberals wish they could tar Jerry Falwell and James Dobson with this kind of stuff, but they are Christians and don't think that way.

We all need to fight these fanatics (Islamofascists) together but the Left can't be allowed to create laws that could be used against Christians (hate crimes laws) in response to Islamic fanatics.

Groups like CAIR also seem to be using anger over terrorism to recruit Muslims to the Left and create the impression that Muslims are persecuted in the United States.

The Left is working one side (terrorist) side to gin them up. Perhaps they want to create conflict so they can come in on the wreckage with bigger government and new laws.

That's probably what the Dems mean when they claim we need to fight terrorism "smart."

When the Soviets launched Sputnik in the 1950's (thanks to captured German rocket scientists from WW II) liberals used the event to say there might be something we could learn from the Soviet system and initiated federal funding of public schools for the first time in American history.


7 posted on 10/29/2006 4:07:27 AM PST by Nextrush (Communism died in the Soviet Union, but Diversity lives on everywhere)
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Gay man rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said, "It is disturbing that some British imams are endorsing the execution of gay and lesbian Muslims.

Disturbing? That's it? Disturbing? I wonder if it was a bishop or rabbi, would it still just be 'disturbing'?

8 posted on 10/29/2006 4:07:39 AM PST by Northern Alliance
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"such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

Wouldn't one think that the 'witnesses' were homesexual also? I don't think too many will come forward to testify. LOL

9 posted on 10/29/2006 4:07:50 AM PST by moonman (`)
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Suppose this will get the libs attention? Doubtful, it's what they planned for them in the end anyways.
10 posted on 10/29/2006 4:08:50 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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In light of this statement, I wonder whether we will hear any peep of protest from any Homosexual group at all ?

My bet is there will be a tiny whimper and that will be it.

Bullies are only willing to sue, tar and feather those they know are harmless ( e.g. Focus on the Family ).


12 posted on 10/29/2006 4:13:26 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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I won't bother with comments about the neaderthalic edicts of this gentleman.

However, I just wonder why this isn't in the Religious Forum? [/sarcasm]

13 posted on 10/29/2006 4:17:49 AM PST by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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"Islam is a very tolerant religion and celebrates the human diversity in its core message," Ali said.

Yeah, they don't discriminate. They celebrate diversity by wishing to forcibly covert or kill anyone who isn't a Muslim. Which means their goal is anything BUT diversity.

15 posted on 10/29/2006 4:22:57 AM PST by dirtboy (700 miles of fence - it's a start)
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"We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia."

No. They should be working together to challenge their own caligynephobia.


16 posted on 10/29/2006 4:23:13 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia.

In other words, we need to make the world safe for Muslims to kill gays? Is this guy's brain so addled by notions of diversity that he cannot recognize a clear threat to his well-being when it bitch-slaps him in the face? Does he also fail to realize that he just compounded the threat by publicly criticizing an Iman, and now he might get the Rushdie treatment?

18 posted on 10/29/2006 4:25:51 AM PST by dirtboy (700 miles of fence - it's a start)
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Meanwhile in France The War Goes On
20 posted on 10/29/2006 4:31:49 AM PST by MaineVoter2002 (If you dont vote on election day, then who are you electing?)
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What surprises is this obsession of the Islamic clerics to killing and execution.
The naïveté of gay-rights activists and leftists world-wide it utterly stupendous.

Illustrated here --- with the oh-so-chic use of the transitive verb "surprise" without an object (maybe English isn't this person's first language, but more likely it's an instance of a popular affectation of the PC crowd, routinely using transitives-without-objects in an unconscious expression of their own pretentious intellectual self-importance) --- it makes me wonder how such words would have sounded in 1934:

"What surprises is this obsession of the new Nazi government with killing and execution."

It doesn't surprise, you moron. It's what Muslims and Nazis do.

22 posted on 10/29/2006 4:36:41 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are Instituting their own Guest Voter Program.)
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Hmm, with all this pro-rape & fag-killing talk, I wonder how many years it will take the 'useful idiot' libs to realize that these people are *not* their friends.


25 posted on 10/29/2006 4:41:02 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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Oddly enough, this hasn't yet made the national press in the UK.

When it does, I expect to be deafened by the silence of feminists and gay rights activists.

28 posted on 10/29/2006 4:47:46 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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How can you spot a Gay Muslim?

His bomb belt and shoes match.


34 posted on 10/29/2006 5:03:15 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Merry Christmas!)
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"I checked again that this was not a matter of tradition, culture or local prejudice. 'No,' he said, 'It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran...'"

Hey, everybody. Slow down a minute. This story on the Imam is not just the usual carping on about how everybody is always "picking on" homosexuals.

More broadly, the Imam is stating "sex outside marriage is forbidden". It carries severe penalties, up to and including the death penalty.

This is not just about "gays and lesbians". There are a lot more sinners than homosexuals being involved here in death penalties for illicit sex.

35 posted on 10/29/2006 5:04:35 AM PST by Gritty (Islam rejects Western liberty. True liberty is obedience to Allah - Sheikh Mohammed al-Tabatabi)
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Once again, the Left in this country finds itself de facto supporting a movement, Islamofascism, under which, if it came to power here, they would be the first to sent to prison, executed, etc.

Liberalism has a big self-destructive streak. That's another reason Libs can't be trusted with national security.


40 posted on 10/29/2006 5:21:39 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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Cleric risks angering the left!


41 posted on 10/29/2006 5:22:18 AM PST by omega4179 (Cheese eating surrender monkeys)
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"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

Four witnesses?

Maybe I'm more even square than I thought, but there aren't four people who could testify that they've seen my actual heterosexual acts, unless hugging and hand-holding count.

42 posted on 10/29/2006 5:23:27 AM PST by ReignOfError
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