Posted on 10/29/2006 3:54:12 AM PST by EBH
The leading imam in Manchester, confirms that he thinks the execution of sexually active gay men is justified, the rights group Outrage reported.
Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque confirmed his views in a conversation to John Casson, a local psychotherapist.
Casson said: "I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion.
"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."
"I asked him what would be the British Muslim view? He repeated that in an Islamic state these punishments were justified. They might result in the deaths of thousands but if this deterred millions from having sex, and spreading disease, then it was worthwhile to protect the wider community."
"I checked again that this was not a matter of tradition, culture or local prejudice. 'No,' he said, 'It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had stated that these punishments were due to such behaviours.'"
Gay man rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said, "It is disturbing that some British imams are endorsing the execution of gay and lesbian Muslims.
"Imam Arshad Misbahi's homophobic attitudes give comfort and succor to queer-bashers. They encourage conflict and disharmony between Manchester's large gay and Muslim communities.
"Muslim and gay people know the pain of prejudice and discrimination. We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia. I hope liberal Muslims will speak out in defense of the human rights of lesbians and gay men," said Tatchell.
Adnan Ali, founder of the British branch of al-Fatiha, an organisation for gay and lesbian Muslims, told Gay.com that "a person with such an obsession about execution of human beings is not even entitled to be addressed as Imam."
"Islam is a very tolerant religion and celebrates the human diversity in its core message," Ali said.
"The holy book Qur'an does not mention anywhere about the execution or killing of human beings on the basis of their sexuality. What surprises is this obsession of the Islamic clerics to killing and execution. Why? What about dialogue? Discussion?
"Arshad Misbahi's comparison of same-sex relation to adultery is nothing but ignorant and utterly irresponsible rhetoric, manifesting the wrong teachings of Islam. The media should . . . not take it for granted as the general view of the Muslim community all over."
What surprises is this obsession of the Islamic clerics to killing and execution.The naïveté of gay-rights activists and leftists world-wide it utterly stupendous.
Illustrated here --- with the oh-so-chic use of the transitive verb "surprise" without an object (maybe English isn't this person's first language, but more likely it's an instance of a popular affectation of the PC crowd, routinely using transitives-without-objects in an unconscious expression of their own pretentious intellectual self-importance) --- it makes me wonder how such words would have sounded in 1934:
"What surprises is this obsession of the new Nazi government with killing and execution."
It doesn't surprise, you moron. It's what Muslims and Nazis do.
Actually, they don't need to go out and testify if it is not another muslim. At least not yet, there's enough infidels running through the streets of the UK.
A gay person admitting to being gay or even being seen at a gay nightclub, might be enough to justify the imam's teaching, in the eyes of his jihadist followers.
" They might result in the deaths of thousands "
Grut, you ignorant moron. The Christian Right does NOT call for the execution of ANYBODY for sexual orientation or any other behavior other than traditional capital crimes like murder. And even then, it's individuals who are part of the Christian Right who support the death penalty for those traditional capital crimes. It's not an integral part of any Christian teaching, anywhere.
You are one of those utterly stupendous MORONS who can't tell the difference between Islamic Fundamentalists and Christian Fundamentalists.
By the way, I am an atheist. I disagree with the Christian Fundamentalists on many things. But I'm not a goddamn MORON who thinks they share ANY characteristics with those who want to behead both me and you.
YFM.
Hmm, with all this pro-rape & fag-killing talk, I wonder how many years it will take the 'useful idiot' libs to realize that these people are *not* their friends.
"It is disturbing that some British imams are endorsing the execution of gay and lesbian Muslims.
As if the imam only endorses the execution of gay and lesbian "Muslims". I'm sure that in Iran if the gay person is a non-Muslim they simply overlook the homosexual behavior...
When it does, I expect to be deafened by the silence of feminists and gay rights activists.
So these statements are out there for all who care to read. What will it take for these people (libs)to realize they will need to take up arms to defend themselves and their way of life?
I thought is was a bit enlightening to see this in GCN. Will they have enough sense to begin to grasp the immediate danger they are in?
You left out the fact that the girl's original crime, for which she was thrown in prison to be raped and then executed, was the crime of "being a rape victim".
By the way, these Imams who so routinely call for the execution of gays probably all (or mostly all) enjoy raping young boys. But that's ok, you see, because it's secret and never admitted to. It's the openly homosexual men and women who must be executed.
I notice it
I wonder how many years it will take the 'useful idiot' libs to realize that these people are *not* their friends.It will never happen. In Russia, socialists went to their executions by the trainload, all believing that socialism had somehow "been betrayed".
So it will be with the Cultural Diversity crowd. Their dying thought will be, somehow, that it's All Bush's Fault.
How can you spot a Gay Muslim?
His bomb belt and shoes match.
Hey, everybody. Slow down a minute. This story on the Imam is not just the usual carping on about how everybody is always "picking on" homosexuals.
More broadly, the Imam is stating "sex outside marriage is forbidden". It carries severe penalties, up to and including the death penalty.
This is not just about "gays and lesbians". There are a lot more sinners than homosexuals being involved here in death penalties for illicit sex.
I think most of us knew that. The article is interesting as it is being in a Gay magazine.
A Christian preacher who merely says in a sermon that homosexuality is "wrong" is likely to be very quickly charged with a hate crime. Every effort will be made to railroad him. An imam can threaten to kill homos and infidels and non believers and sinners all day long every day and nothing happens to him.
His bomb belt and shoes match.
LOL!
Once again, the Left in this country finds itself de facto supporting a movement, Islamofascism, under which, if it came to power here, they would be the first to sent to prison, executed, etc.
Liberalism has a big self-destructive streak. That's another reason Libs can't be trusted with national security.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.