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IT'S OK TO KILL GAYS - BRITISH IMAM
GCN ^ | 10/24/2006 | staff

Posted on 10/29/2006 3:54:12 AM PST by EBH

The leading imam in Manchester, confirms that he thinks the execution of sexually active gay men is justified, the rights group Outrage reported.

Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque confirmed his views in a conversation to John Casson, a local psychotherapist.

Casson said: "I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion.

"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

"I asked him what would be the British Muslim view? He repeated that in an Islamic state these punishments were justified. They might result in the deaths of thousands but if this deterred millions from having sex, and spreading disease, then it was worthwhile to protect the wider community."

"I checked again that this was not a matter of tradition, culture or local prejudice. 'No,' he said, 'It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had stated that these punishments were due to such behaviours.'"

Gay man rights campaigner Peter Tatchell said, "It is disturbing that some British imams are endorsing the execution of gay and lesbian Muslims.

"Imam Arshad Misbahi's homophobic attitudes give comfort and succor to queer-bashers. They encourage conflict and disharmony between Manchester's large gay and Muslim communities.

"Muslim and gay people know the pain of prejudice and discrimination. We should be working together to challenge homophobia and Islamophobia. I hope liberal Muslims will speak out in defense of the human rights of lesbians and gay men," said Tatchell.

Adnan Ali, founder of the British branch of al-Fatiha, an organisation for gay and lesbian Muslims, told Gay.com that "a person with such an obsession about execution of human beings is not even entitled to be addressed as Imam."

"Islam is a very tolerant religion and celebrates the human diversity in its core message," Ali said.

"The holy book Qur'an does not mention anywhere about the execution or killing of human beings on the basis of their sexuality. What surprises is this obsession of the Islamic clerics to killing and execution. Why? What about dialogue? Discussion?

"Arshad Misbahi's comparison of same-sex relation to adultery is nothing but ignorant and utterly irresponsible rhetoric, manifesting the wrong teachings of Islam. The media should . . . not take it for granted as the general view of the Muslim community all over."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gayagenda; liberalmindset; religion; rop; wot
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To: Grut

You don't know much about Christianity, do you?


61 posted on 10/29/2006 6:23:18 AM PST by Antoninus II
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To: EllenZ
The Popes ordered the Crusades to kill the Infidels in the Holy Land.

Utter nonsense. Pope Urban sent the crusaders to reclaim territory taken by force by Islamists, who were persecuting Christians in the area (and still are today).

62 posted on 10/29/2006 6:28:02 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Jazzman1

I have tried to tell my gay sister what is in store for her if she and her friends manage to put this country on the road to liberalism as they would like -

She blocks my emails now.


64 posted on 10/29/2006 6:51:22 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: EBH
i guess we shouldn"t be so judgmental ,

the libs are really going to have to twist themselves in a knot to defend these muzzies. esecially the women and gays. wahahahahahahaha

let's see now.... rape women..OK...Kill homosexuals...ok....

65 posted on 10/29/2006 6:53:35 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: EllenZ
the highest Christian authority of the time said it was OK to kill if you are doing God's will, which is the same point that many mullahs are making today.>>>>>>>>>>>

Its not the same point Mullahs are making. The Mullahs say that it is OK to perpetrate genocide in the formation of an Islamofascist World Caliphate.As far as I know, genocide is a far cry from the ancient wars in which the military enemies of Christians could be killed. Never did any Crusade validate the killing of humans because of their racial or cultural background. Only the killing of Muslim combatants was authorized by the Pope in the Crusades.

So it must be understood that the Mullahs are NOT making the same point, that it is OK to do GOD's will through killing. So the Mullahs are actually Megalomaniacs who think they are GOD. That holds true also for any Christians who think they do God's will in committing genocide.

66 posted on 10/29/2006 6:57:02 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: EBH

The libs have been coddling this group of murderous thugs because they have the same main goal: destroy Western Civilization.
I hope the libs realize that one of their favorite constituencies will be the first to get their heads chopped
if the jihadist get into power.


67 posted on 10/29/2006 7:00:25 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (The Leftist Marxist-Jihadists Alliance: joining forces to destroy civilization.)
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To: EBH

I wonder how long it will take the libs to figure out that the "Enemy of my Enemy" does not like me either.


68 posted on 10/29/2006 7:04:07 AM PST by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: Northern Alliance
Disturbing? That's it? Disturbing? I wonder if it was a bishop or rabbi, would it still just be 'disturbing'?

No, as evidenced by Pope Benedict's remarks recently. There would be riots, mayhem, murders, and abject apologies for insulting the Religion of Peace.
69 posted on 10/29/2006 7:09:33 AM PST by baseballmom
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To: EllenZ
the highest Christian authority of the time said it was OK to kill if you are doing God's will, which is the same point that many mullahs are making today.>>>>>>>>>>>

OOOPS REPOST, a paragraph got left out! Its not the same point Mullahs are making. The Mullahs say that it is OK to perpetrate genocide in the formation of an Islamofascist World Caliphate.As far as I know, genocide is a far cry from the ancient wars in which the military enemies of Christians could be killed. Never did any Crusade validate the killing of humans because of their racial or cultural background. Only the killing of Muslim combatants was authorized by the Pope in the Crusades.

So it must be understood that the Mullahs are NOT making the same point, that it is OK to do GOD's will through killing.

Genocide was never authorized in the Crusades.It is questionalble whether genocide has ever been authorized as human activity by any Christian church. Genocide is an activity reserved for the work of the Angel of Death and God himself. Humans have never been allowed to do genocide as a matter of " God's Will."

So the Mullahs are actually Megalomaniacs who think they are GOD. That holds true also for any Christians who think they do God's will in committing genocide.

70 posted on 10/29/2006 7:24:37 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: ReignOfError

Congressional Democrats led by Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson worked with the President on this one.

And in the wings Senators like Hubert H. Humphrey (Democrat-Minnesota) and Jacob K. Javits (Republican-Liberal Parties New York).

Ike played the GOP Establishment get along with em game back then. Times change but the tune stays the same.


71 posted on 10/29/2006 8:01:15 AM PST by Nextrush (Communism died in the Soviet Union, but Diversity lives on everywhere)
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To: EBH

A deathmatch between homosexuals and muslims! Why doesn't hollywood have a pay-per-view package for it yet? I'd buy that for a dollar!


72 posted on 10/29/2006 8:07:09 AM PST by Vision Thing
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To: hershey
You'd think Hollywood and Libs everywhere would find this a tad worrying.

Yup! ho-wood and the libs are hoping that muslims will destroy America for them. But the cold, hard truth that muslims also want to destroy the liberal sacred cow---namely, the homosexual---must be disturbing to them. The cognitive dissonance should have ho-wood and the libs quaking in their light loafers.

73 posted on 10/29/2006 8:13:41 AM PST by Vision Thing
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Yeah, the left is still whistling past the graveyard. Wait until the imam demands the execution of women who've had abortions, employees of Planned Parenthood etc.

Then we'll see if how willing the left is to give up their sacrament.


74 posted on 10/29/2006 8:16:49 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: EBH

"...are there liberals listening finally?"

I was wondering the same thing, but the two (presumed) liberals quoted in the article seem to be completely clue-less, so I must remain un-hopeful.


77 posted on 10/29/2006 12:31:44 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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