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To: Slings and Arrows
With no G-d, what moral axioms do they use to call religion evil?

Good point, but I'm afraid it will be missed by those that don't already get it.

People who are bad at making good moral decisions are usually the best at justifying themselves, and the least good at understanding morality. The guy quoted at the top of the article of coarse thinks he is too good for God. We are talking psychosis here. It is both fascinating and unnerving to try to talk sense about morality with someone desperately hiding from God.

25 posted on 10/28/2006 11:10:22 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear
People who are bad at making good moral decisions are usually the best at justifying themselves

Too true.

I was thinking from the perspective of logic. As C. S. Lewis demonstrated in The Abolition of Man, everybody has moral axioms, whether or not they are consciously aware of it. Dawkins and Harris seem to fall firmly into the "not" category. To save myself a rant, they (as summarized in the article) blather endlessly about why a species adopts a set of behaviors, but present no reason why I, or any other individual, should adopt those behaviors.

26 posted on 10/29/2006 12:00:33 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Natalie Maines fears me...)
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To: AndyTheBear
It is both fascinating and unnerving to try to talk sense about morality with someone desperately hiding from God.

LOL... The atheist is not "hiding from God" anymore than you could be said to be "hiding from Frodo the Hobbit." One does not hide from fictional characters. And to the atheist, God is a fictional character.

48 posted on 10/29/2006 8:05:10 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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