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To: AndyTheBear
People who are bad at making good moral decisions are usually the best at justifying themselves

Too true.

I was thinking from the perspective of logic. As C. S. Lewis demonstrated in The Abolition of Man, everybody has moral axioms, whether or not they are consciously aware of it. Dawkins and Harris seem to fall firmly into the "not" category. To save myself a rant, they (as summarized in the article) blather endlessly about why a species adopts a set of behaviors, but present no reason why I, or any other individual, should adopt those behaviors.

26 posted on 10/29/2006 12:00:33 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Natalie Maines fears me...)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I haven't read The Abolition of Man. But I am now re-reading Mere Christianity and have recently read Pilgrim's Regress. I find myself appreciating the brilliance of C.S. Lewis more and more these days.
27 posted on 10/29/2006 12:03:52 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I was thinking from the perspective of logic. As C. S. Lewis demonstrated in The Abolition of Man, everybody has moral axioms, whether or not they are consciously aware of it. Dawkins and Harris seem to fall firmly into the "not" category. To save myself a rant, they (as summarized in the article) blather endlessly about why a species adopts a set of behaviors, but present no reason why I, or any other individual, should adopt those behaviors.

I've not read Abolition of Man, but I am a big fan of Lewis, too.

And, from the piece:

But now evolutionary biologists are trying to turn the tables: According to their argument, religion is the source of evil. Morals and selflessness are not God-given - they are the result of evolution.

Turning the tables? That's rich. There's always been a certain anti-God strain in some of those who push evolution as the answer to how we came to be. I wasn't gifted with an intellect designed for understanding complex science, but that said, that also makes it impossible for me to accept evolution as fact, because my lack of understanding requires a leap of faith. And, if I'm going to make any leap of faith, it'll be with God.

Here's a piece by Tom Wolfe that I found a while back, that's pretty good.

31 posted on 10/29/2006 1:23:16 AM PDT by AlbionGirl
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