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Allen - You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Webb's Recollections of War - So Just Shut Up
Jim Webb for U.S. Senate ^ | October 27, 2006 | Jeff Pyatt and Jessica Smith

Posted on 10/27/2006 12:20:48 PM PDT by areafiftyone

October 27, 2006
George Allen: You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Jim Webb’s Recollections of War – So Just Shut Up
And to Chris LaCivita, Who Did Serve, You Should Know Better – Shame on You

To: George Allen and his campaign
From: Steve Jarding
Re: Shame on both of you

George Allen and his campaign hit men this week chose to again attack Jim Webb and his military experiences, this time by taking passages from Webb’s novels to try to suggest that the explicit war time experiences Webb writes about are demeaning and repugnant.

On their attacks, I would like to say two things. First, the novels that the Allen camp attacks include Fields of Fire, which has been called the classic novel of the Vietnam War and was for years required reading on college campuses nationwide in classes relating to the illumination of war. They include, The Emperor’s General, which has been called a masterpiece of literature and was called by that raving liberal George F. Will, “This compelling, fascinating exercise of historical fiction proves, again, that Jim Webb is as fine a novelist as he was a Marine. Enough said;” and they include Born Fighting, which has been called brilliant and the most important ethnography of our time. Perhaps the Allen camp should learn to read books before they begin burning them.

Second, let me say one more time to George Allen and his lapdog assassins. Senator, you have not earned the right to question Jim Webb’s wartime experiences, from the ugliness of combat to the ugliness of what happens to civilians in nations ravaged by war. Senator, Jim Webb wrote of things he witnessed. They may have been ugly, but we should learn from their ugliness about the consequences of our votes and actions before we send men and women into war.


And Senator, you would not know this, but, war is demeaning, war is repugnant. People die and get maimed there. Innocent boys and girls are forced into prostitution, and are forced to perform heinous acts there. Jim Webb witnessed it all. And he wrote about it. You don’t think this is happening in Iraq?

Perhaps if you had read Webb’s book, you would not be so quick to take his experiences and attempt to twist them for selfish, personal, political gain. Perhaps if you had purchased Webb’s books and at least read about these types of atrocities, you would not have been so gung ho about blindly following the misguided and malfeasant actions of another man who did not witness firsthand the ugliness of war, George W. Bush. And perhaps if you had gone to Vietnam and served as a company commander instead of serving as a drover at a dude ranch, or serving as a surfing instructor on Malibu Beach, you would temper your feigned indignation. A man who did read this same book you disparage, John McCain, praised its honest portrayal of the heinous nature and repercussions of war.

Perhaps Senator, if sheltered Hollywood neighborhoods and elitist dude ranches had unspeakable death, destruction, rape, and unspeakable inhumanity to man and woman, you might now know how self serving your shock and indignation is. But, until you have witnessed firsthand the ugliness of war and the destruction it reaps upon all people, including the innocent ones, you should learn to keep quiet.

I understand, Senator, that your campaign is desperate and as such it is doing desperate things. But it is not lost on anyone that you were the one who went on statewide television pleading for a campaign on the issues. You clearly did not mean the words you uttered.

And finally, to Chris LaCivita, who did serve. Your statement regarding Jim Webb’s recollections of his war experiences, do not warrant a response. Shame on you.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bananas; chesterthemolester; pedophile; pervert; pornpeddler; stevejarding; virginiapervert; webb; webbsapervert
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To: areafiftyone

It's called the right of free speech, which Americans are born with. You don't have to earn it, and no one has the right to tell you that you have to earn it. So the writers of this junk have their right to free speech, and Allen has his.


81 posted on 10/27/2006 1:02:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: black_diamond

Libs counted so much on Foleygate to do what actually debating real Democrat Positions wouldn't do...

Now that the whole thing is back-firing in thier faces(pun intended), they are beginning to realize they just finished themselves....


82 posted on 10/27/2006 1:03:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: cinives

Yup and supposedly a host of other things in those countries are considered normal. Most of that stuff is considered porn here.


83 posted on 10/27/2006 1:03:36 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: RexBeach
Could Steve Jarding be the "father" character in Webbs porn book? *wink*
84 posted on 10/27/2006 1:04:50 PM PDT by Cindy_Cin
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To: Dane

Definitely related.

There's something in the eyes....perversion?


85 posted on 10/27/2006 1:05:21 PM PDT by Palladin (Vote for Rick Santorum, a true prolife conservative!)
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To: MplsSteve

Their own polls tell them this is not good news for their camp...even Imus was put off by the child porno.


86 posted on 10/27/2006 1:05:33 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Vote American, not Democrat.)
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To: areafiftyone
Dems hate cowboys, too. Yet here in CA the Jackass candidate for Lt Gov is shown in an ad in his cowboy regalia riding low in the saddle. What phonies. They hate the military, yet trot out their real or imagined military records, like Kerry shooting himself in the arse with a grain of rice. They are pathetic, contemptible, and now obviously desperate.
87 posted on 10/27/2006 1:05:49 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: gb63
Why don't you go to your computer and download some porn... you know, the Webb books... :-)

Watch for the "Foley Who?" effect.

88 posted on 10/27/2006 1:05:52 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Already voted absenteeā€¦.straight Republican ticketā€¦.best choice on the menu.)
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To: areafiftyone
George Allen: You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Jim Webb’s Recollections of War – So Just Shut Up...

I beg your indulgence--I didn't major in history.

When were we at war with Thailand? (That is where Webb says he witnessed that father-son "cultural thing" that he wrote about, isn't it?)

89 posted on 10/27/2006 1:06:26 PM PDT by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: cinives

I heard that rabbis did this at one time when doing circumcision. Really. It did not have a sexual meaning, or so they said. Who knows. Maybe it was a standard rationilization?
But, that's no excuse for Webb.


90 posted on 10/27/2006 1:06:29 PM PDT by gb63
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To: attiladhun2

The Democrat's version of the cowboy is on Brokeback Mountain.


91 posted on 10/27/2006 1:06:58 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: alloysteel

Banana Jim Webb has shown us all his dark side.

Definitely unfit to be in the U.S. Senate.


92 posted on 10/27/2006 1:07:44 PM PDT by Palladin (Vote for Rick Santorum, a true prolife conservative!)
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To: jdm; bitt; pookie18

James Webb shows off his love for the Banana.
93 posted on 10/27/2006 1:08:03 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Palladin

I must admit I have heard of the things he wrote about, before this story came out. It might have been from reviews of similar books or something. ANYway, I was STUNNED when I read what Drudge posted, and I'm not a prude. I've seen all kinds of things... I felt embarrassed and disgusted reading it. That said, it is fair game. After the sleaze and innuendo tossed at Allen, finally something with proof against Webb. The left is FREAKING out. I can feel it.

I have a feeling it might make it onto some late night comic show - can't pass up cheap laughs.


94 posted on 10/27/2006 1:08:45 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Pelosi! What Did She Know and When Did She Know It?)
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To: attiladhun2
Dems hate cowboys, too

Except the ones in Brokeback Mountain. And the one in The Village People.

Dems are really and truly becoming the Pervert Party.

95 posted on 10/27/2006 1:09:40 PM PDT by Palladin (Vote for Rick Santorum, a true prolife conservative!)
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To: PghBaldy; All

The only thing is none of the MSM outlets have picked this up. Only Drudge has it. I have not seen it in the news at all. It was mentioned this morning very early on Fox and Friends but nothing. Noone will really hear about it. Only people who follow politics like we do.


96 posted on 10/27/2006 1:11:00 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: ArkansasBushfan
Is this the same Steve Jarding?

If memory serves, this Steve Jarding and his co-author called Ronald Reagan an ignorant fool and his administration a sellout and sham.

97 posted on 10/27/2006 1:11:42 PM PDT by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: areafiftyone
"if sheltered Hollywood neighborhoods and elitist dude ranches"

Wait...that's where all the Liberal funding and political Hollywood "experts" come from....

Biting the hand that feeds them?

98 posted on 10/27/2006 1:12:33 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: PghBaldy

It made it first thing on Rush's show this morning. A lot of people in VA listen to Rush. And it was on a leading radio show heard in VA earlier. Everyone will know in due course. Only Virginia matters in this particular flap. And, no way can anyone dwell on 'macaca' anymore.


99 posted on 10/27/2006 1:13:08 PM PDT by gb63
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To: areafiftyone
I've known a huge number of Vietnam Vets and never heard them say their experience was like this, or that they now had a right not to write garbage and go uncriticized if the work is offensive. Pornographers contribute to Webb. That says it all. Sen Dodd wouldn't let Imus read the offensive parts from novels. That says it all. The Webb people want to censor from the public what he profited from so that he doesn't offend the Virginia electorate and so he'll get elected. He should be proud of his "art," but obviously, he isn't. That says it all.
100 posted on 10/27/2006 1:13:18 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Global Warming Fears will do for the world what over population fears did for Europe.)
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