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Allen - You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Webb's Recollections of War - So Just Shut Up
Jim Webb for U.S. Senate ^ | October 27, 2006 | Jeff Pyatt and Jessica Smith

Posted on 10/27/2006 12:20:48 PM PDT by areafiftyone

October 27, 2006
George Allen: You Have Not Earned the Right to Question Jim Webb’s Recollections of War – So Just Shut Up
And to Chris LaCivita, Who Did Serve, You Should Know Better – Shame on You

To: George Allen and his campaign
From: Steve Jarding
Re: Shame on both of you

George Allen and his campaign hit men this week chose to again attack Jim Webb and his military experiences, this time by taking passages from Webb’s novels to try to suggest that the explicit war time experiences Webb writes about are demeaning and repugnant.

On their attacks, I would like to say two things. First, the novels that the Allen camp attacks include Fields of Fire, which has been called the classic novel of the Vietnam War and was for years required reading on college campuses nationwide in classes relating to the illumination of war. They include, The Emperor’s General, which has been called a masterpiece of literature and was called by that raving liberal George F. Will, “This compelling, fascinating exercise of historical fiction proves, again, that Jim Webb is as fine a novelist as he was a Marine. Enough said;” and they include Born Fighting, which has been called brilliant and the most important ethnography of our time. Perhaps the Allen camp should learn to read books before they begin burning them.

Second, let me say one more time to George Allen and his lapdog assassins. Senator, you have not earned the right to question Jim Webb’s wartime experiences, from the ugliness of combat to the ugliness of what happens to civilians in nations ravaged by war. Senator, Jim Webb wrote of things he witnessed. They may have been ugly, but we should learn from their ugliness about the consequences of our votes and actions before we send men and women into war.


And Senator, you would not know this, but, war is demeaning, war is repugnant. People die and get maimed there. Innocent boys and girls are forced into prostitution, and are forced to perform heinous acts there. Jim Webb witnessed it all. And he wrote about it. You don’t think this is happening in Iraq?

Perhaps if you had read Webb’s book, you would not be so quick to take his experiences and attempt to twist them for selfish, personal, political gain. Perhaps if you had purchased Webb’s books and at least read about these types of atrocities, you would not have been so gung ho about blindly following the misguided and malfeasant actions of another man who did not witness firsthand the ugliness of war, George W. Bush. And perhaps if you had gone to Vietnam and served as a company commander instead of serving as a drover at a dude ranch, or serving as a surfing instructor on Malibu Beach, you would temper your feigned indignation. A man who did read this same book you disparage, John McCain, praised its honest portrayal of the heinous nature and repercussions of war.

Perhaps Senator, if sheltered Hollywood neighborhoods and elitist dude ranches had unspeakable death, destruction, rape, and unspeakable inhumanity to man and woman, you might now know how self serving your shock and indignation is. But, until you have witnessed firsthand the ugliness of war and the destruction it reaps upon all people, including the innocent ones, you should learn to keep quiet.

I understand, Senator, that your campaign is desperate and as such it is doing desperate things. But it is not lost on anyone that you were the one who went on statewide television pleading for a campaign on the issues. You clearly did not mean the words you uttered.

And finally, to Chris LaCivita, who did serve. Your statement regarding Jim Webb’s recollections of his war experiences, do not warrant a response. Shame on you.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bananas; chesterthemolester; pedophile; pervert; pornpeddler; stevejarding; virginiapervert; webb; webbsapervert
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To: areafiftyone

Are the books fiction or are they memoires?

C


41 posted on 10/27/2006 12:36:39 PM PDT by ARA
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To: Flora McDonald

The Webb campaign is starting a complete meltdown. In another week they'll probably be in an angry frenzy and hurling one accusation after another at Allen in the desperate hope that something will work. Nothing they try will work. Allen will win this one by 5-10 points.


42 posted on 10/27/2006 12:36:44 PM PDT by defenderSD (Blogging from a secure, undisclosed location in the southwestern United States.)
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To: areafiftyone

Notice their first reaction is to tell the other side to just shut up. That I think is the the thing I find most characteristic and most disturbing about the left. If political free speech is denied the next stop is physical violence.


43 posted on 10/27/2006 12:37:20 PM PDT by claudiustg (Iran delenda est.)
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To: Flora McDonald

LOL...I think so too!


44 posted on 10/27/2006 12:38:14 PM PDT by Txsleuth (EVERYONE VOTE---AND VOTE REPUBLICAN,...even if you have to hold your nose!)
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To: Echo Talon
what does a woman using her crotch as a kitchen utensil have to with war?

Whacks on, whacks off.


45 posted on 10/27/2006 12:38:35 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

LOL!


46 posted on 10/27/2006 12:39:15 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: areafiftyone

I love that Webb is irritated that people are QUOTING his books! Lol! I guess he didn't think anyone was actually reading them...


47 posted on 10/27/2006 12:39:33 PM PDT by ilovew (I love being a DoD intern...)
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To: Echo Talon
"what does a woman using her crotch as a kitchen utensil have to do* with war?"

Or voyeuristically describing sex between children.

Did he WITNESS children having sex? Was that his experience?

Just nuts these people.
48 posted on 10/27/2006 12:40:17 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: muawiyah

Steve Jarding is closely linked with total scumbag Doug Thompson, the serial fabricator and liar who has created various fictional characters for his articles smearing Republicans. Oh, and Doug Thompson has been very involved in pumping the asinine "racism" smears against George Allen.

Yeah, to have Steve Jarding complain about anyone quoting actual writings of Webb is far worse than the pot calling the kettle black - Steve Jarding and Doug Thompson aren't just the pot, they are the Demagogic cesspool.


49 posted on 10/27/2006 12:40:32 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: areafiftyone

Webb has jumped the shark.


50 posted on 10/27/2006 12:40:57 PM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: black_diamond

No


51 posted on 10/27/2006 12:41:52 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: areafiftyone
Unintentionally ex post facto funny: We Are the Monkey and the Banana Who Scared Off Allen. http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4300 It was originally referring to macaca, but the banana can now switch sides and work for Allen, trailing Webb.
52 posted on 10/27/2006 12:42:03 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Depose Nancy! What did she know and when did she know it?)
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To: darkwing104; RexBeach

Director of Webb's campaign.


53 posted on 10/27/2006 12:42:07 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: jdm

or this one since its a girl
54 posted on 10/27/2006 12:42:27 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: ARA

Fiction but based a bit on what he saw in the war.


55 posted on 10/27/2006 12:42:49 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

Can any of you actually make us shut up?


56 posted on 10/27/2006 12:43:00 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Already voted absenteeā€¦.straight Republican ticketā€¦.best choice on the menu.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Did he WITNESS children having sex? Was that his experience?

i think its HIS experience(especially the part about the small PeePEE)

57 posted on 10/27/2006 12:43:49 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Wow, I had no idea Hillary Swank was the female lead in that!


58 posted on 10/27/2006 12:44:20 PM PDT by jdm
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To: areafiftyone

What's love got to do with it?

Man, you can just FEEL the warmth in the room when you peruse any of these "fiction" works produced by James Webb.

Like an overheated 14-year-old male, Webb is more than just a little graphic in his descriptions. Seems like a similar degree of objection was raised about the writings of Henry Miller a couple of generations ago, when the works "Sexus", "Nexus", "Plexus", "Tropic of Capricorn" and "Tropic of Cancer" were still banned in the US, until the prohibition was overturned by the US Supreme Court.

Still filthy, lewd, lascivious and of prurient interest only.


59 posted on 10/27/2006 12:44:47 PM PDT by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Yup!


60 posted on 10/27/2006 12:44:50 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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