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And there you have it. The black box has spoken.
1 posted on 10/25/2006 11:59:45 AM PDT by Torie
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whatever...


23 posted on 10/25/2006 12:08:10 PM PDT by dubie
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three political scientists attempt to use the results of generic congressional polls to predict the outcome of the midterm elections.

Talk about an exercise in futility.

24 posted on 10/25/2006 12:08:16 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Politics ain't beanbag. Make it a Rovetember to remember)
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Garbage in, garbage out...


25 posted on 10/25/2006 12:08:33 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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after six years of constant barrage of democratic talking points, demagoggery, and smearing a good many good people, if the democrats CAN'T capture both houses, they ought to fold up shop.

I mena if they can't take addvantage of all this, then they should give it up, and give Soros his money back.


26 posted on 10/25/2006 12:09:19 PM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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Ther's only one problem, the polls are all weighted towards demoRATS 10-12%.


29 posted on 10/25/2006 12:11:15 PM PDT by John Lenin
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"Political Scientists Say Democratic Control [of House] a "Near Certainty""

I always thought the term "political science" was an oxymoron.


30 posted on 10/25/2006 12:11:24 PM PDT by aquila48
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we forecast an expected Democratic gain of 32 seats

And Don Carlos predicts that as early as Nov 8th, the 'Rat rallying cry will be "we demand a recount", "systematic disenfranchisement", and "widespread voter fraud"!

Just watch!

32 posted on 10/25/2006 12:13:02 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Me cache en los Moros. (Ancient Spanish curse))
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Not really scientists, or politicians:
The American Political Science Review (APSR) continues to be the foremost scholarly research journal of political science.
APSR presents peer-reviewed research articles by political scientists of all subfields. Areas covered include political theory, American politics, public policy, public administration, and international relations.

Lumberjacks!


33 posted on 10/25/2006 12:14:22 PM PDT by tumblindice (I find myself sufficiently cognizant of the chronological information you desire. It's 3:15.)
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..yes, experts are always right...

34 posted on 10/25/2006 12:16:19 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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As we take of our tin foil hats, and together sing this hymn:

Hymmmmmn hymmmmmn f_ _ k! himmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
37 posted on 10/25/2006 12:18:35 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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Political science is the highest science, but also the least mathematical science. Applying mathematics to election prediction should be left to actual scientists not political scientists--who do better when they stick to the ancient methods of contacting the spirit world.


39 posted on 10/25/2006 12:19:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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Pointy-headedness at its stupid best. Generic polls are worthless as predictors of individual races. Not partially useful, not somewhat informative - worthless.

Generic samples, even if sufficiently large (and culled to exclude unregistered and unlikely voters) ignore regional variation, demographic concentration, voter intensity, and a whole lot of other things that determine the outcome of individual races. Like turnout, for example. Or weather. Or ground-game efficiency (how many personal contacts do I need to make to increase turnout by "x" percent in one key district?)

This is just more FUD from the Democrat-Media Complex.

41 posted on 10/25/2006 12:20:39 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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NJ Supremes just handed the election to the Republicans, who will hold the House by a nose.


43 posted on 10/25/2006 12:20:46 PM PDT by ikka
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I believe now, more than ever, that Republicans will retain control of both the House and the Senate. Maybe only by a slim majority but I think we'll still have the majority.


46 posted on 10/25/2006 12:23:37 PM PDT by ilovew (I love being a DoD intern...)
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Never trust a political "scientist" to know beans about statistics.


48 posted on 10/25/2006 12:25:49 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Political Scientists Say Democratic Control [of House] a "Near Certainty"

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Let's break this statement down:

"Political Scientists" are College Professors, since no sane corporation would ever pay anyone to sit around and BS.

"Near Certainty" for an future event is a "Wish"

So, a rough translation is: "College professors wish for Democratic party control of the House of Representatives."

...hardly a surprise there...and well worth ignoring.

49 posted on 10/25/2006 12:26:23 PM PDT by captain_dave
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http://polmeth.wustl.edu/retrieve.php?id=657

They checked their equations against 2004 info instead of another off-year election.
It's so obvious they should have used 2000 info that it makes one wonder if they secretly did and it failed LOL!

Maybe this paper is a joke...


52 posted on 10/25/2006 12:35:19 PM PDT by mrsmith
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Charles de Gaulle said there were three ways to go to hell:

  1. Gambling
  2. Women
  3. Believing Experts

Gambling was the quickest, women was the most pleasurable and believing experts was the most certain.

Do not lose hope or heart.

Regards, Ivan

54 posted on 10/25/2006 12:36:42 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Actually, this has value because it's near the election. If these guys then match the actual results to their model's prediction, they can then try to figure out why there were deviances and then improve their model.


57 posted on 10/25/2006 12:44:13 PM PDT by RonF
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The first thing you learn in statistics is that correlation is not causation.

In other words, past correlation does not predict future results.

58 posted on 10/25/2006 12:44:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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