Welcome to the double hijacked thread J
I believe you'll find the illustration below to be very helpful as to the history and nature of this thread.
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Posted on 10/25/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Blackirish
As the Republican base fragments and Christian conservatives consider a “fast” from politics, the polling data point to a mid-term Republican thumping. Less than two weeks from now, Republicans will begin their post-mortem soul searching. And as the corpses of their House and Senate majorities grow cold, so should Karl Rove’s 2006 campaign strategy.
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Ditto that!
Dude, you opened your mouth without engaging your brain.How is that not rude?
No one says science has all the answers.Actually, that's not true, there are those who do. But regardless, science is a method, not a body of knowledge. It's a good, limited method for finding out certain kinds of things.
Why won't you go to bat for pro-science folks who don't like to be called idolator and nazi?Maybe he opened his mouth without, well, you get the idea. Or maybe not.
...anti-science kooks.How is that not rude?
If we're going to stay united against the socialists, religious conservatives need to realize that modern biology isn't the enemy.So, if religious conservatives don't do that (whatever that realization entails), the "pro-science" conservatives will do what, exactly? And what about non-religious conservatives like me?
"Dude, you opened your mouth without engaging your brain." would not be considered rude in my circles. In fact, it would be rather complimentary since the underlying assumption is that if the other's brain had been engaged the error would not have occurred.
We get challenged daily, hourly, by collegues; data that refuses to comply with our elegant hypotheses (which we like to call theories until the humbling process of writing them up as papers); and equipment with inconvenient limitations.
It is possible that you were right but for the wrong, or for a limited set of reasons. After all, it was 50-50.
Editor-surveyor mentioned some factors and I mentioned others. Although it is counter-intuitive, adding water vapor reduces, not inreases the density of air. Cold increases the density of air and temperature changes at different rates inside and outside the balloon partly due to the possibility of the balloon's surface being a reflecting, mylar typeand partly due to the different thermal conductivities involved.
Editor-surveyor mentioned the different gas compositon of basememt air which is highly relevant.
As I said, all sorts of factors.
Your post brings up to me a cultural difference between practicing scientists in the hard sciences (I include biology) and folk.Your post brings up to me how condescending you are.
Since I had no such intention, and was trying to be helpful, could you expand? I'd genuinely appreciate it.
I see a problem in a democratic form of government with 1/3 telling 2/3 what to do. I also doubt that "hard" scientists are the only thinkers on this planet.(but the description of their especially rude behavior might be accurate).
Golightly referred to helium filled balloons and an interesting experiment.
My question referred to helium outide the balloon.
Thank you for acknowleding the misquote.
acknowleding = acknowledging
You're right there. The conversation went something like this....
Post 369 mm: Gee, everything I let go of falls.
To which From many - one. responded in post 1265
Did you ever let go of a helium balloon?
A hot air balloon?
A kite in the wind?
Looking back at my answers, I now see that I answered them inappropriately and should have answered them in the manner which they deserved.
Therefore the following are the more appropriate responses to such .... questions:
Did you ever let go of a helium balloon?
Yes, and I have watched a balloon filled with only helium fall.
A hot air balloon?
If I were physically capable of picking up a hot air balloon and let go of it, it would fall to the ground.
A kite in the wind?
Yes, I have held in my hands and let go of a kite in the wind and watched it fall to the ground. I have even put it on a string and tried to fly it and it still falls.
Gravitation was obvious enough that Newton came to the conclusion that it existed. If someone else cannot look at the same evidence and come to the same conclusion of what is so blatantly obvious, then I guess it's also pretty obvious that that person is no Newton. Some people would be better off staying out of physics.
I believe you'll find the illustration below to be very helpful as to the history and nature of this thread.
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Marvelous Toy
(Tom Paxton)
When I was just a wee little lad full of health and joy
My father homeward came one night and gave to me a toy
A wonder to behold, it was, with many colors bright
And the moment I laid eyes on it it became my heart's delight
It went "zip" when it moved and "bop" when it stopped
And "whirr" when it stood still
I never knew just what it was and I guess I never will.
The first time that I picked it up, I had a big surprise
For right on its bottom were two big buttons that
Looked like big green eyes.
I first pushed one and then the other, and then I twisted its lid And when I set it down again, this is what it did:
It first marched left and then marched right
And then marched under a chair
And when l looked where it had gone, it wasn't even there:
I started to sob and my daddy laughed, for he knew that I would find, When l turned around, my marvelous toy, chugging from behind.
Well, the years have gone by too quickly, it seems,
I have my own little boy
And yesterday I gave to him my marvelous little toy.
His eyes nearly popped right out of his head
And he gave a squeal of glee,
Neither one of us knows just what it is,
but he loves it, just like me.
Written, printed, and recorded by Tom Paxton
Copyright Tom Paxton
SOF
The music is here: Superdude's Midi Collection For Kids
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1245/marvelo.mid
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