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2001 Iraqi Document: Saddam Approved the Re-Use of Nuclear Equipments (Important Translation).
Pentagon/FMSO website for Iraq Pre-war documents http://70.168.46.200/ ^ | October 24 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 10/24/2006 12:55:08 PM PDT by jveritas

In what is so far the most important evidence of Saddam personal involvement in re-building Iraq nuclear program , document CMPC-2003-012331.pdf dated January 2001 indicates that during a meeting between Saddam and the Staff of the Iraqi Atomic Energy Organization Saddam was asked by the Organization Staff to give his permission for re-using the infamous “ Degussa Vacuum furnaces ” that were used in the previous and prohibited Iraq nuclear program. These furnaces can be used to melt uranium and other nuclear related activities.

The Degussa Vacuum furnaces were supplied to Iraq in the 1980’s by a German firm (Degussa AG based in Frankfurt Germany) and these furnaces later on became the subject of investigations of the German firm in the early 1990’s where the company claimed that they did not know that Iraq would have used them in its nuclear program. The New York Times had an article in 1998 titled “An Iraqi Defector Warns of Iraq's Nuclear Weapons Research” where the Degussa furnaces were mentioned as part of “previous” Iraq nuclear program and the controversy surrounding the sale of these furnaces and the investigations later on(link: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders/214/other/news/iraqi_defector.html ). The irony is that this is not only a New York Times article but also it was written by JUDITH MILLER and JAMES RISEN once of the worst accusers (liars) that the Bush administration lied about Iraq WMD.

Also the Degussa furnaces supplied to Iraq were mentioned in articles written by David Albright (An American nuclear scientist) explaining how the Degussa furnaces were used in the “previous” Iraqi nuclear program. Mr. Albright wrote the article to Bulletin of Atomic Scientists” back in 1992-1993 and you find the links about these articles ( http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=apr92albright , http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=dec93albrighta> ).

Again this document carries a lot of importance since it proves without any doubt that Saddam was directly involved with his nuclear scientists to re-build their nuclear program. President Bush in a speech dated October 7 2002 mentioned that Saddam has held numerous meetings with his nuclear Scientists and this quote from President Bush speech: The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors (Link: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html ).

The translation will include memos. The first one is from Senior Deputy Minister of Iraq Military Industrialization Committee to the Chairman of Iraq Atomic Energy Organization asking him to allocate the Degussa Vacuum furnaces, the second memo a reply from Iraq Atomic Energy Organization saying that they will do so and that they got the approval of Saddam Hussein to re-use these equipments.

Beginning of the translation of memo 1 of CMPC-2003-012331.pdf

In the Name of God the Most Merciful the Most Compassionate

The Republic of Iraq, The Presidency of the Republic, The Military Industrialization Committee

Number 2/4/83

Date: 25/1/2001

Secret and Confidential

To: The Atomic Energy Organization- The Office of the Chairman

Subject: Allocation of Degussa Vacuum Furnaces

Please approve the allocation of the mentioned furnaces and quantity (2) with its accessories because of our dire need for it to implement the works and projects tasked to our committee. And we empower engineer Samir Ibrahim for follow up and receiving.

With regards

Signature

Air General

Marahem Sa’aab Al Hassan

Senior Deputy Minister for Military Industrialization

25/1/2001

End of translation of memo 1

Beginning of translation of memo 2 of CMPC-2003-012331.pdf

Mr. Respected General Director

Subject: Allocation of Vacuum Furnaces

Regarding the letter of the Senior Deputy Minister of the Military Industrialization numbered 2/4/83 on 25/1/2001 I would like to clarify the following:

1. We do not have primaries about the subject.

2. There was a communication with the Energy Organization about the furnaces and it was revealed that the furnaces were delivered to the Physics Department in the Atomic Energy Organization upon the instruction of Mr. Chairman of the Energy Organization to take advantage of these equipments ( During the meeting with the President The Leader God protect and shepherd him and the Organization Staff asked his Excellency to take advantage of these equipments) and these equipments were received two moths ago by the Physics Department.

The furnaces do not have the seal of the Agency but it was among the equipments of the previous program that were included in the list prepared by the agency.

Signature

29/1

Shaker Hamed.

End of translation of memo 2


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To: saganite

It is a powerful document, no doubt about it.


21 posted on 10/24/2006 1:23:51 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Do you think the timing of this is tied to 9-11-01 at all?


22 posted on 10/24/2006 1:24:38 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Thou art only mark'd for hot vengeance and the rod of heaven.)
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To: MizSterious

"This should be headline material for all the networks"

They don't want people to look.
That is where WE come in.
And WE can get around them now with places like Free Republic.


23 posted on 10/24/2006 1:25:26 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: MEGoody

The Looney Left would not believe that Saddam had WMD or precursors to make WMD or even programs for WMD unless they see a video of Saddam himself on Chemical Weapons and nuclear reactors, and of course the video must be dated 2002-2003 else it will not be relevant for them.


24 posted on 10/24/2006 1:27:30 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: avacado

Thank you very much.


25 posted on 10/24/2006 1:27:53 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: eyespysomething
The memos were written in January 2001 and the meeting between Saddam and his nuclear scientists was held few months before that. I think that Saddam was very afraid of Iran nuclear ambitions and he did not want to be left defenseless in case Iran was able to get the nuclear weapons so he wanted to re-start his own nuclear program.
26 posted on 10/24/2006 1:30:47 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jazusamo
thanks for posting this media list - we ALL need to email them - they won't pay a figs amount of attention unless they get blitzed...then they might, not because they want too, but because with enough "noise" they'll figure it will break on other outlets and they wont be be in the front


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27 posted on 10/24/2006 1:34:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: All
From the New York Times article in August 15 1998 by Judith Miller and James Risen titled “An Iraqi Defector Warns of Iraq's Nuclear Weapons Research”

“Dr. Jorg Streitferdt, in-house counsel for Degussa, AG, based in Frankfurt, Germany, which owned Leybold at the time, said the companies did sell some equipment that ended up in Iraq's nuclear program, and were later subjected to a series of investigations, including a criminal inquiry by Germany.

He noted that Degussa was exonerated on the charges of selling vacuum furnaces to Iraq, largely because West Germany did not require export licenses at that time for such sales. Though Degussa executives suspected that Iraq might use the equipment for military purposes given the ongoing Iran-Iraq war, he added, they did not know that Iraq wanted it for a nuclear program.

"DeGussa and Leybold did not know what the equipment was for," Streitferdt said. "The whole world did not know what Iraq was about to do. We have learned our lesson and now have very tough internal controls on our exports."

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders/214/other/news/iraqi_defector.html

28 posted on 10/24/2006 1:36:41 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: maine-iac7

You're exactly right. If enough FReepers here took the small amount of time it takes to email the important finds to even 5 or 6 news sources I believe it would make a difference.


29 posted on 10/24/2006 1:39:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: All
This is from the US nuclear scientist Dr. David Albright in his article to Bulletin of Atomic Scientist in 1993:

"According to the Report of the Thirteenth IAEA On-Site Inspection in Iraq, the inspectors found two oxidation furnaces made by Degussa, and some ancillary equipment, including vacuum pumps and control systems, that were manufactured by Leybold, a German firm. Iraq had used a small oxidation furnace for research and development. A production-size furnace was still in packing crates. The inspectors found a chart at the furnace site that recorded temperatures and time periods consistent with Stemmler's process.

Stemmler told me that he had not contactedDegussa . According to company officials, the contact was made by H and H and Iraqi procurement agents. The sale of the furnaces was arranged by H and H, although H and H personnel did not appear to know what the technical requirements of either the furnace or the ancillary equipment were. During meetings at the two companies, the Iraqis were more informed about the technical specifications than were the H and H people.

Degussa and Leybold officials say they did not realize that the equipment was going to be used to manufacture centrifuges.They said that the personnel involved in filling the original orders from MAN were no longer with their companies, and that the employees who filled the Iraqi order had no experience with centrifuges. Urenco and MAN stopped manufacturing maraging steel rotors several years ago, eliminating their need for large oxidation furnaces."

http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=dec93albrighta>

30 posted on 10/24/2006 1:42:09 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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This isn't the article I was thinking of but it was published about the same time:

Iraq's UN report says 86 German firms did business there: press Monday,

Iraq's arms report to the United Nations shows that more than 80 German companies have done business with Baghdad since the 1970s and that some have contravened a UN embargo, according to a German newspaper.

In its Tuesday edition, the daily Tageszeitung said that the companies included public and private research laboratories and firms which supplied whole systems or components for weapons of mass destruction.

Citing what it claimed were parts of the report, the newspaper said some of the 86 companies that had been doing business in Iraq since around 1975 had continued to do so at least up until 2001.

31 posted on 10/24/2006 1:45:31 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: jveritas
I Googled "vacuum furnace radioactive" and found this about how to produce tritium. Hmm.
32 posted on 10/24/2006 1:48:40 PM PDT by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: Sender

Exactly, that is why this document is very important.


33 posted on 10/24/2006 1:50:54 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

nuclear mujahideen ping


34 posted on 10/24/2006 1:53:55 PM PDT by alrea
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To: alrea

Something else for the Treason Media to ignore.


35 posted on 10/24/2006 2:00:18 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: eyespysomething; jveritas
The irony is that this is not only a New York Times article but also it was written by JUDITH MILLER and JAMES RISEN once of the worst accusers (liars) that the Bush administration lied about Iraq WMD.

Thanks bump.

36 posted on 10/24/2006 2:22:52 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Let me guess where these items went? Libra?
37 posted on 10/24/2006 2:25:20 PM PDT by man from mars
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To: jveritas

Good job, jveritas. As usual.

Why the president isn't talking about these translations will forever remain a mystery.


38 posted on 10/24/2006 2:26:48 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: jveritas

What does David Kay, Hans Blix, and Scott Ritter have to say about these doc's?

How come they are not getting any play anyway. Its like nobody cares.

Keep it up. The record is important. Just like Able Danger.


39 posted on 10/24/2006 2:33:49 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: jveritas

Great work...


40 posted on 10/24/2006 2:34:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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