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Romney Article: Boston Globe's "Pious" View on Religion and Politics
Boston Globe ^ | 10/23/06 | Boston Globe Editorial Staff

Posted on 10/23/2006 1:49:15 PM PDT by Jeff Fuller

Romney's Mormon Allies October 23, 2006 WHEN JESUS, as quoted in Matthew's Gospel, said, ``Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's," he was stressing the need to separate the civil and religious realms -- a message that has resounded across the centuries, and that churches and political leaders often have been tempted to ignore. The Mormon church and Mitt Romney should make sure that the church stays out of his nascent presidential campaign.

The Globe reported last week that a top church official held a meeting with Romney's son at church headquarters in Salt Lake City to discuss a fund -raising initiative among Mormons. This would involve alumni of the business school at Brigham Young University , a church affiliate. The First Amendment , with its injunction that Congress shall make no law restricting religion, carries an implied corollary that churches should not meddle in politics.

In response to the Globe story, the Mormon church affirmed its neutrality in the presidential race last week and instructed two business school deans to stop sending e-mails on Romney's behalf.

The church also ought to make sure that all its leaders, including Jeffrey R. Holland, who organized the meeting, stop helping the campaign. As one of the 12 Apostles, advisers to church president Gordon B. Hinckley, Holland's involvement is tantamount to a Mormon endorsement of the candidacy.

Romney defended his campaign, saying: ``Clearly I'm going to raise money from people I know, and that includes BYU alums, people of my church, people of other churches." His lack of concern about the issue raises doubts about his ability to keep church and state separate should he move to the White House . . .

Read on

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: globe; politics; religion; romney
The Globe has gone too far with this editorial--"Romney's Mormon Allies".

Here is a link from NewsBusters previously which highlights the Globes utter hypocrisy on this one.

Some of the Globe's "High and Mighty" statements:

After quoting Jesus (huge red flag when the Globe editorial staff is quoting the Bible!) saying the "Give unto Ceaser . . ." line as evidence of the importance of the seperation of church and state; obviously selectively using the Bible (I'm guessing the whole homosexual-acts-are-"an abomination" part of the Bible weren't quoted by the Globe as they supported the same sex marriage ruling by the SJC.) The Globe then sternly warns:

"The Mormon church and Mitt Romney should make sure that the church stays out of his nascent presidential campaign."

Also,

The church also ought to make sure that all its leaders, including Jeffrey R. Holland, who organized the meeting, stop helping the campaign. As one of the 12 Apostles, advisers to church president Gordon B. Hinckley, Holland's involvement is tantamount to a Mormon endorsement of the candidacy.

In light of church statements denying Holland's presumed actions during this whole affair and prior to the publication of this editorial the Globe is effectively calling Holland and the Church liars. That's just infuriating to me . . . but I guess it just makes the Globe look desperate and dishonest in the end.

Romney defended his campaign, saying: ``Clearly I'm going to raise money from people I know, and that includes BYU alums, people of my church, people of other churches." His lack of concern about the issue raises doubts about his ability to keep church and state separate should he move to the White House.

"Lack of concern"? How about Romney's rights as a politician. Is he precluded from raising money from fellow church members? This has gone too far and the Globe has reared it's anti-religious head too strongly. I wonder if they feel the same about the church of secularism . . . should liberal candidates not be able to take money from environmental groups, Move-on.org, trial lawyers, etc . . . ?

They finish . . .

But Romney appears all too willing to entangle religion and politics. Voters who practice a different faith, or none at all, deserve assurances that he can separate the demands of public life from the urgings of Salt Lake City.

"Urgings of SLC?" What in the world are they referring to? I'd like to hear what urgings Romney has been following. This could be the most inappropriate and outlandish editorial I've ever read from the Globe. I think they must be convinced that Romney will win the GOP nomination because they're already attacking him for a general election run.

I can only feel that this kind of religious discrimination against Romney will elevate his status among faith-based individuals of all denominations to nearly "martyr" level . . . especially when he did nothing wrong in this whole matter. Ironically, the Globe may end up being Romney's biggest ally in the end. Ya never know.

I've also covered this story here, here, and here

1 posted on 10/23/2006 1:49:17 PM PDT by Jeff Fuller
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To: Jeff Fuller

Oops, the Globe editorial was titled "Romney's Mormon Allies". The title above is my sarcastic opinion of thier stance.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 1:50:29 PM PDT by Jeff Fuller (http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jeff Fuller

Yet another perfect example of why the Boston Globe is hemorrhaging cash and is caught in a death spiral. And no quantity of letters to Pinchy from Kennedy, Lynch and other member of the crooked MA delegation.

The end can't come soon enough for me - I've been waiting for this since around 1974.


3 posted on 10/23/2006 1:57:14 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Jeff Fuller

Just because you are a member of some religious denomination, does that mean you lose your civil right to participate in the dialogue about how we should be governed?

Where did that come from?

Nothing is ever going to be "values-free".


4 posted on 10/23/2006 1:58:59 PM PDT by alloysteel (For liberals, the general calm of neighborly living is the enemy of progress.)
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To: Jeff Fuller

Romney's being Mormon has absolutely nothing to do with anything, and most voters feel exactly that way.

I can't support a Presidential candidacy, but it has nothing to do with his faith. However, any lack of support will be construed by the Globe, and by the left, as being due to his faith. They and all the media, want to show bias in the Republican party, and most articles, polls, etc, are geared for just that.


5 posted on 10/23/2006 1:59:36 PM PDT by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: Jeff Fuller

Does the globe write similar editorials when Democratic politicians are feted and the collection plate passed in Black Churches during campaign season. Do they cringe with the fear of a theocracy when the Reverend Jesseeee offers an endorsement to a candidate of the Left? No! Why? One word! HYPOCRISY!!! The Left can't live without it.


6 posted on 10/23/2006 2:17:35 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Jeff Fuller
In the interest of full disclosure, and since religion is germane to this thread, are you a Mormon? (I'm pretty sure I already know the answer, just wanted to get it out there).

For parity, I'll disclose first. I was raised Catholic, but stopped going to church as soon as I left home (I was forced to attend as long as I was living under my parent's roof). I don't believe in God and don't practice any religion.

7 posted on 10/23/2006 2:48:46 PM PDT by benjaminjjones (Assachusetts, land of the "Free 'em All Deval" Patrick & Preverts"R"Us)
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To: Jeff Fuller

``Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's,"

This is a total misinterpretation of this scripture. It had nothing to do with a separation of church and state. Indeed, the Hebrew tradition was one of religious monarchy. This scripture was Christ simply telling the disciples to do their duty towards government and to not use Christ's ministry as an excuse or cover for rebellion against Roman authority. He was here making clear that his mission was not to come as temporal liberator, but as a spiritual healer. Indeed, if anything the scripture could be interpreted to me there is nothing incompatible about government and religion.


8 posted on 10/23/2006 2:54:23 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: Jeff Fuller

Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's," he was stressing the need to separate the civil and religious realms



In my comment above, I neglected to include the Globe's tortured interpretation of this scripture which is now included above. The Hebrews had little understanding of the concept of church-state separation. That was a concept utterly foreign to them who throughout their history had been governed by religious leaders, albeit many unrighteous. This is not at all the correct understanding of this scripture but rather a modern day liberal interpolation by the Boston Glob. (Misspelling Intended.)


9 posted on 10/23/2006 2:58:50 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: Jeff Fuller

The First Amendment , with its injunction that Congress shall make no law restricting religion, carries an implied corollary that churches should not meddle in politics.



There is nothing "implied" in the Constitution. The Founders were quite explicit and weren't about to put something in so vague it could be open to inference. Far from it. Indeed, the Bill of Rights was about establishing rights. There is nothing in it that takes away or restricts said rights. To claim otherwise shows a complete lack of understanding of the Constitution. This is the same mystical liberal power that allows these dopes to see a right to murder your baby in the Constitution.


10 posted on 10/23/2006 3:01:48 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting Nov. 7 because you're pouting is PRECISELY what Speaker Wannabe Pelosi wants you to do!)
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To: xkaydet65
Does the globe write similar editorials when Democratic politicians are feted and the collection plate passed in Black Churches during campaign season. Do they cringe with the fear of a theocracy when the Reverend Jesseeee offers an endorsement to a candidate of the Left? No! Why? One word! HYPOCRISY!!! The Left can't live without it.

John F. Kennedy's campaign.

Boston Irish Catholics.

SOME of us remember it.

But that was DIFFERENT.

Democrats are so special.

11 posted on 10/23/2006 3:15:23 PM PDT by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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To: Jeff Fuller
This could be the most inappropriate and outlandish editorial I've ever read from the Globe.

It's right up there...

I've seen this BS rebutted so many times on this site it has ceased to be funny.

The democrats use churches as backgrounds for their stupid "speeches" all the time....ALL of them.

This article is a ridiculous attack on Romney's religion and should be persued, vehemently.

FMCDH(BITS)

12 posted on 10/23/2006 4:52:06 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Jeff Fuller
My favorite part of the Globe's rant is this bit where they justify their double standard when it comes to JFK and his Catholicism:

"Non-Catholics were unduly fearful that the worldly Kennedy would take orders from the Vatican."

So, it was OK for JFK to be Catholic because he was not faithful but "worldly". So, kids, religious insincerity is a plus amongst Liberals while Conservatives who sincerely try, but fail, to live a traditionally moral life are hypocrits. Can't you just feel the "tolerance?"

BTW, the Globe fails to mention that Jeffrey R. Holland was the President of BYU for many years during the 80's and 90's so going to him for his contacts at the University is not terribly surprising.

13 posted on 10/23/2006 5:37:13 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Jeff Fuller

This is what I predicted, a Muslim (Obama) would be preferred by some to a Mormon.


14 posted on 10/23/2006 5:38:53 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Reaganesque

One more thing, Mitt Romney and Jeffrey R. Holland have more honesty and integrity in the tip of their pinkies than does the entirety of the MSM and DNC combined. I would stake my life on that fact.


15 posted on 10/23/2006 5:40:51 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Jeff Fuller
Another item of interest. This article is also from today's issue of the Globe (front page, below the fold):

Muslim could be a 1st in Congress

Groups pin hope on Minnesotan

By Joseph Williams, Globe Staff | October 23, 2006

MINNEAPOLIS -- While there is no such thing as a sure thing in politics, congressional candidate Keith Ellison is a good bet to join the freshman class of 2006 in the US House of Representatives.

If he does, Ellison, who is the Democratic nominee in an overwhelmingly Democratic district, will take the oath of office with his hand on the Koran and not the Bible -- the first Muslim in American history to be elected to Congress.

Though he publicly downplays his faith, it helped boost Ellison past two local party heavyweights to capture the nomination. In the primary, his campaign triggered a record turnout among Minneapolis's largely Muslim Somali community.

The district, which has a long history of voting Democratic, is made up of middle-income whites, middle- to working-income blacks, and immigrants.

Now, Ellison, 42, is poised to arrive in Washington at a time of acute tension between Muslims and the US government over treatment of Muslims at home and abroad. His Republican opponent, Alan Fine, backed by conservative bloggers across the country, charges that Ellison's past association with the Nation of Islam -- and support he has received from another group that some say is affiliated with terrorist organizations -- should raise red flags for voters...

Click here for the rest of the article.

So, Muslim good, Mormon bad. Remember that when you go to vote.

16 posted on 10/23/2006 5:48:55 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Jeff Fuller

Funny, I am from Boston, born and bred.

How come a person from Iowa knows what is going on in that rag's articles better than I do? (Hint: I don't read the Globe even more than my neighbors don't read it.)

The Globe is so over as a business enterprise. They're going down fast and furious, but the rats ain't fleeing that ship until it is completely sunk and over for all of the people who (soon) used to make a living there. There is an agenda over there that is more important than the continuity of some vacuous Editorial Writers who actually refer to themselves as reporters.

Both Boston newspapers despise Romney, but at least the Globe pretends that they are somehow being objective, even as they lie their asses off regularly concerning anything and everything about Romney.

Funny, the Globe chastises Romney for the exact opposite reasons that they would like to. Meanwhile the Herald, totally makes up/embellishes and exaggerates reports and clearly will write anything to wreck his chances for 2008.

The Globe hates Romney and pretends not to, while the Herald hates Romney and can barely contain themselves from wanting the rest of us to share in their shitty attitude toward a decent man who is completely unlike the vast majority of decadents who currently also hold a public office.


17 posted on 10/23/2006 5:55:48 PM PDT by Radix (This is my Tag Line.)
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To: Jeff Fuller
Democtats ... Thee name is Hypocrite

You Tube - Harold Ford's campaign ad set in his childhood church


Clinton asks minorities to back Gore


Gore campaigns at black churches

18 posted on 10/23/2006 6:05:08 PM PDT by Mo1 (GET OUT AND VOTE - SAY NO TO DEMOCRATS)
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To: benjaminjjones

Yep, I'm LDS. That the Globe is calling my church's leadership liars is definitely a part of my indignation here.


19 posted on 10/23/2006 6:44:25 PM PDT by Jeff Fuller (http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mo1

Mo1,

That was the best!

That's great to have this pictures. It puts a face on their hypocrisy.

Thanks for adding that!


20 posted on 10/23/2006 6:51:09 PM PDT by Jeff Fuller (http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/)
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