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French police face 'permanent intifada'
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Posted on 10/22/2006 4:34:16 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

French police face 'permanent intifada'

By JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 15 minutes ago

On a routine call, three unwitting police officers fell into a trap. A car darted out to block their path, and dozens of hooded youths surged out of the darkness to attack them with stones, bats and tear gas before fleeing. One officer was hospitalized, and no arrests made.

The recent ambush was emblematic of what some officers say has become a near-perpetual and increasingly violent conflict between police and gangs in tough, largely immigrant French neighborhoods that were the scene of a three-week paroxysm of rioting last year.

One small police union claims officers are facing a "permanent intifada." Police injuries have risen in the year since the wave of violence.

National police reported 2,458 cases of violence against officers in the first six months of the year, on pace to top the 4,246 cases recorded for all of 2005 and the 3,842 in 2004. Firefighters and rescue workers have also been targeted — and some now receive police escorts in such areas.

On Sunday, a band of about 30 youths, some wearing masks, forced passengers out of a bus in a southern Paris suburb in broad daylight Sunday, set it on fire, then stoned firefighters who came to the rescue, police said. No one was injured. Two people were arrested, one of them a 13-year-old, according to LCI television.

More broadly, worsening violence in France testifies to Europe's growing struggle to integrate its ethnic minorities. Some mainstream European politicians — adopting positions previously confined largely to far-right fringes — are suggesting that the minorities themselves are not doing enough to adapt to European mores.

In Britain, former Foreign Minister Jack Straw, now leader of the House of Commons,

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Sub-Driver
I predict a call from Youths(muslims)for secession from France. Once that happens....France will not have a choice but to give up land to the Muslims.
21 posted on 10/22/2006 4:54:23 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: fat city
I'm betting (1)common sense and (2)cool heads win the day.

We are talking about the French right?
I don't know if those 2 elements come into play here.

22 posted on 10/22/2006 4:55:11 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...Hey Libs........NO FITZMAS FOR YOU.....()
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To: fat city
"I dunno- that 2005 record looks untouchable unless they put on a real good second effort for the last few months. What's Vegas saying?"

Don't know. However the muslims are chanting we're number 1, by acting like number 2.

It worked in Spain, it can work here!

23 posted on 10/22/2006 4:55:59 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: caseinpoint
Some mainstream European politicians — adopting positions previously confined largely to far-right fringes — are suggesting that the minorities themselves are not doing enough to adapt to European mores.

European (and American) leftists have successfully relegated common sense to the far-right fringe... it's past time to ostracize the far lefties and let common sense reign again.

24 posted on 10/22/2006 4:56:19 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Capt. Tom
"Larger, more mainstream police unions sharply disagree that the suburban unrest has any religious basis."
Let me see if I got this straight: Thousands of muslim attacks on police and other emergency personnel, including laying ambushes for them = no religious basis. Four muslim guys jumped at a London mosque = instantaneous classification as religious-based "hate crime".

Eurabia, we hardly knew ye.

25 posted on 10/22/2006 4:57:23 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: OldFriend
Seems to me that France is in the middle of a civil war an invasion.
26 posted on 10/22/2006 4:59:48 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democrats. French, but more cowardly.)
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To: Dallas59

I agree The French should surrender and submit to the rusty knife head-ectomy they have coming!


27 posted on 10/22/2006 4:59:54 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: Reily
"What the French need to do is recall a Foreign Legionnaire unit from its overseas posting and then use the police to seal the area off from reporters."

Your comment is over the top, and vile!

BTW - just how many Legionnaires do you think it would take...?

28 posted on 10/22/2006 5:00:11 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Sisku Hanne

"Larger, more mainstream police unions sharply disagree that the suburban unrest has any religious basis."


Because they are absolutely terrified to think about it actually being true.


29 posted on 10/22/2006 5:00:57 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: OldFriend

Seems to me that the French are in the middle of a Civil War.....largely immigrant French neighborhoods

Civil War is in sight if illegial immigrants keep flooding our population. No more is America a melting pot... ethnic neighborhoods are being run by hoodlums who think they have nothing to lose while they defend their ill gotten ground.


30 posted on 10/22/2006 5:01:27 PM PDT by Republican Babe (God bless America.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Evidently the police in France--and in the U.K. as well--have been told that they should not use their weapons to defend themselves.

This is preposterous. A deliberate attack on the police represents a complete breakdown of law and order. This is not some drunk getting angry and losing his head. This is a deliberate ambush.

They should shoot all the perpetrators the next time this happens, or there will cease to be any control at all over the violence.

The same thing is happening in England. There are areas where the police don't dare to go, because their lives are at risk and they are not allowed to defend themselves.

I cannot think of a stupider policy or one more likely to lead to disaster.


31 posted on 10/22/2006 5:03:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

But if the police shoot the attackers, it will just make the attackers hate them and want to do violence......

You cannot escalate violence ---- unless you intend to WIN.
Can we count on the French to fight to victory?


32 posted on 10/22/2006 5:06:12 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Sub-Driver

If the Muz want Sarkozy elected this is the way to accomplish it.


33 posted on 10/22/2006 5:07:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: OldFriend

hey OF........go buy the book. Wink!


34 posted on 10/22/2006 5:07:41 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Dallas59
"France will not have a choice but to give up land to the Muslims."

Won't help. One word: Palestinians.

35 posted on 10/22/2006 5:13:25 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: ValerieUSA

They are already in a position where they must either win or die.

I think you need to draw the line at the preservation of law and order. Once mobs get the idea that the police will not act, no matter what they do, then there is no longer any law or order.

If the government loses control, there are two possible outcomes. One is that the Muslims will take over France and the rest of Europe, which I am afraid is the likelier outcome.

The other is that ordinary people will take the law into their own hands, and you will have lynch mobs and civil war. We like to joke on FR about the French habit of surrendering, but the past has shown that when you drive Europeans past a certain point, watch out. Possibly they are now too decadent now to take such a path, but I don't see Europe going down without a struggle, in at least some countries. If the police refuse to act, then you will have anarchy sooner or later.


36 posted on 10/22/2006 5:13:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sub-Driver

In truth....the French must learn from our experiences and approach to a similar situation:


Fallujah.


37 posted on 10/22/2006 5:14:05 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: fat city
What's Vegas saying?

"We thought the French had already surrendered, so we didn't bother to put a line up."

38 posted on 10/22/2006 5:18:13 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: ValerieUSA

You are correct, but to see the faces of these buttwipes if those French cops had come out of the car with automatic weapons smoking would have been worth a lot.


39 posted on 10/22/2006 5:25:56 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: ValerieUSA

You are correct, but to see the faces of these buttwipes if those French cops had come out of the car with automatic weapons smoking would have been worth a lot.


40 posted on 10/22/2006 5:25:58 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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