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Islam: A religion for Losers
http://www.freerepublic.com/ ^ | 10-21-2006 | Me

Posted on 10/21/2006 8:07:20 AM PDT by tcostell

You would think that a belief system where the most lauded members are those who blow themselves up would have some serious marketing problems.  I mean how exactly do you get rational post-secular westerners to buy into an idea like that?  But Islam is the world’s fastest growing religion none the less.  And much of it's growth is owed to its rapid conversion of certain segments of western society.


  At a glance it defies all logic, but it's true.  It's a commonly held view that when a person stops believing in organized religion they don't then believe in nothing, but begin to believe in anything.  This describes the state of many in the post-secular west.  And for people in that mental and emotional state, divorced from their society without any common emotional ground to bind them to their family and community, Islam apparently has some intrinsic appeal.  But this then begs the question "Who are these people?”  Who would be willing to give up so much of the promise of the 21st century west for the cold restricted structure of 15th century Islam?  Who would be prepared to trade the "We hope you believe but it's really up to you" optimism of western theology for the choice between unyielding submission to the political hierarchy of the faith, or the business end of the faithful's sword?


  Well in a word... its losers.  Islam is growing in the western world by picking the low hanging fruit of society.   Those most lacking in the skills it takes to succeed in the west, are irresistibly drawn to Islam.  In a single stroke, Islam provides not only the craved for structure of a rigid life and a ready political apparatus which blames others for their hardships, but provides the promise of eternal reward in heaven for the very characteristics which have brought them only failure in the west.  In short, it's a religion which rewards the loser for the very things which make them a loser, and encourages them to use violence to bring the rest of society down to their level.  This is why it's becomes such a popular faith in the US prison systems, and why it's growing so rapidly among the discontented portions of western society.  Whatever your personal failure, Islam has an explanation that makes it clear that someone else is responsible. 


  In the history of man, no society has so successfully provided each individual with opportunity like the United States.  In the US, the circumstances of your birth don't matter, nor does your race, nor your gender, or anything else other than your own personal initiative.  In America, both men and women from every religious, racial, ethnic, and economic subgroup have continually reached the pinnacle of success in their chosen fields.  And the world over it's widely regarded as fact that if you are truly extraordinary at something, then America is where you will receive the greatest reward for it.  America loves a winner, and our society rewards them well.  We recruit them in every slice of life, from athletes, to engineers, to writers to educators, and everything else.  If there is a greatest ditch digger on the planet, then the odds would be that he's digging a ditch somewhere in the US.  And it's the very idea “that success can come to anyone" which makes the US what it is. 


  But that isn't to say that it’s a perfect meritocracy where only those who deserve it are rewarded.  It's still a society of men, and many of those men, for whatever reason, will do what they must to stand in the way of others as well.  So while the opportunity is clearly there, that alone is not a guarantee of success.  Some people, for whatever reason, lack the initiative, or the determination, or sometimes even the intelligence to achieve the same level of success as others in their chosen field.  But the question of success is not what you start out with in life, but what you do with it.  The people who achieve success are usually those who when faced with an obstacle will work harder, jump higher, run faster, and do whatever is necessary to get around it.  Success isn't defined by talent as much as it is by determination. But some people don't react that way.  Some people, when faced with an obstacle, will be quick to abandon their effort, and begin blaming others for their troubles.  They fail to take responsibility, and instead look to find a scapegoat.  And along comes Islam.


  The very core concept of Islam is the unconditional surrender to the will of Allah.  At its very heart, Islam encourages its faithful to not take responsibility for the circumstances of their life.  And from that basis all other Islamic law follows.  Have you had trouble with women?  No problem... under Islam a woman is more a piece of property than a person, so you will be able to command, and they must obey, if not... it's the sword or stoning.  Have you had trouble in business? No problem... under Islam, most worldly matters of commerce are left to the Dhimmi, those members of the unfaithful tolerated under Islam like slaves thanks to the high taxes paid by them for the right to survive.  But if the taxes should stop flowing, or the Dhimmi become defiant, then Islam provides a solution that even a loser can understand, again, it's the sword.  On and on, Islamic law makes it clear that if you are among the faithful, then anytime the world fails to meet your expectations, the perfectly acceptable and moral solution is violence.


  In short, Islam is a belief system which codifies a theological structure where those people least capable of achieving success on their own gain the political means of either taking or restricting the success of others by force.  It’s a triumph of violence as the means to realize the will of god, over the "reason" of the western world.  And in the west, people who choose violence over reason are losers.  And so it grows in the prisons of the US, and the suburban slums of Paris.  It gathers strength from the bottom, speaking a language that the losers of the west can understand.  "Obey" they say, "Obey, and we will give the means to take your revenge on a society that has left you behind.  Obey, and we will make you mighty, obey and your violence will be the last expression of the will of god."


  What those losers who convert fail to realize however, is that the price for their vengeance, and the cost of their scapegoat, is that they too become a slave.  If they aren’t responsible for the bad things that happen to them, then they aren't responsible for the good that comes to them either.  There may be no failure for them under Islam, but then there will be no triumph for them as well.  And should they achieve some moment of greatness, then they will quickly find that they too may be guilty of some obscure violation of sharia, and that the sword of Islam cuts both ways.


  For myself, I may not be the most successful man I know, or for that matter the most faithful, but my success and my failures all belong to me.  And for that alone, I'll stick to the reason of the west over the violence of Islam, anyday.    


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KEYWORDS: erichoffer; fanatics; islam; rop; thetruebeliever; truebeliever
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To: Motherhood IS a career
That was how I actually meant "winners/Losers. In every conflict between people there is a winner. Sometimes, conflicts can be resolved in a way that everyone wins. This would be the ideal solution to problems under Christian morality. But under Islamic morality, very often the moral outcome is simply to chop off someone's head. That would mean that there is at least 1 "loser" involved in the solution.

In the west we've built a society that is largely optimized to have as many people be winners as possible, but the Muslim world has not. That's how I meant the comparison. And I think it's curious that the people who have characteristics which leave them frequently on the losing side of conflict resolution in the west are drawn to Islam in such large numbers.

81 posted on 10/24/2006 8:20:38 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: tcostell

bttt


82 posted on 10/27/2006 6:29:21 AM PDT by Motherhood IS a career
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To: red irish

OK, but why are some people seemingly incapable of taking responsibility for their actions? Why can't they control themselves. Call it a lack of character, or a lack of willpower, whatever you want. You could even say that they deliberately choose to stay in their addiction. But why? Why do some people go down that road? If a person is of poor character or weak willpower, is that their "fault?"

I don't know, but it's always been an interesting question to me. Why are some people prone to addiction to one substance or another, and others not? I believe in personal responsibility, but I'm not sure if addiction is just a behaviour, or if possibly people that suffer from it really do have an inherent problem, or lack of something, that most of us don't, and if so, is it their fault? I suspect this discussion starts to veer into philosophy and questions of free will and such like.

In any case, while I might be able to excuse an addict's addiction, that can never be an excuse for otherwise unacceptable actions, such as theft, sexual abuse, DUI, etc.


83 posted on 10/27/2006 7:12:40 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Motherhood IS a career

"And you DO agree that virtue and wealth are not mutually exclusive."

They're not mutually exclusive, but looking around I can't help but think they're not often well-acquainted, either.


84 posted on 10/27/2006 7:25:56 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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