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CHURCHES MUST PAY BIRTH CONTROL: COURT
Associated Press ^ | 10/20/06

Posted on 10/20/2006 6:40:09 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: presidio9

Notice how the AP does the propaganda spin, the exceprt paragraph would imply THIS IS IN YOU, YOUR STATE, WHERE YOU LIVE STATE. Despite the fact this appears to only be NY based on the NY Catholic reference.

Pure propaganda.


Of course folks with a FEDERAL majority we have a chance to introduce federal law to trump this state law. Democrats will make the opposit mandatory.

Thanks for the propaganda AP.


41 posted on 10/20/2006 7:18:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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42 posted on 10/20/2006 7:19:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: presidio9
The court said the fact that the organizations hire employees outside their faith is a critical factor and they deserve the rights sought under the law.

"New" rights. And we all know "new" rights trump old rights. Thank God we have courts and judges that constantly create "new" rights for us. The old ones get sort of stale from time to time.

43 posted on 10/20/2006 7:19:10 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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To: Obie Wan

Nah, "democrat" with a small d indicates someone who believes in basic human freedoms...Pataki doesn't qualify.


44 posted on 10/20/2006 7:20:02 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: fml

ther ARE some non birth control reasons to take the birth control pills. (thyroid, painful periods etc)


45 posted on 10/20/2006 7:20:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: craig_eddy
The unintended conseqence should be that the church must then stop paying for all health insurance.

You are right, that is what is going to happen.
46 posted on 10/20/2006 7:20:48 AM PDT by Talking_Mouse (wahhabi delenda est)
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To: wideawake
In our lifetimes we will see Catholic hospitals closed down by the government for refusing to facilitate euthanasia.

One hopes that they will shut down voluntarily out of principle before being forced to.

SD

47 posted on 10/20/2006 7:24:16 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Sacajaweau
If the church is so FIRM about contraception, then all employees who use it should be fired.

How do you suppose the Church is to go about finding out this information?

SD

48 posted on 10/20/2006 7:25:54 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Red Badger
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
Well, my FRiend, what you have forgotten is that merely posting a plaque on the wall is tantamount to Congress passing a law.
Based on the logic for this SCOTUS edict, since we do not prohibit people from leaving the country to some other place where they can freely exercise their religion, then this portion of the living, breathing, ever changing in meaning Constitution has not been breached.

We are truly in trouble...
49 posted on 10/20/2006 7:28:01 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: therut
Why can't Catholic Charities move out of liberal MA and NY to a State that would welcome them.

Christ didn't entreat us to heal the sick, feed the hungry, etc. only in favorable political climates.

What they should do, when necessary, is sever all ties with hostile governments, turning aside any monetary gain in order to clearly and effectively witness.

SD

50 posted on 10/20/2006 7:29:02 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Sacajaweau

Maybe they should just confess to the preist in private. The church should not have to pay for something they consider sinful. I do not understand why people who are Catholic gripe when they know they are breaking Catholic teachings. I do not grip with God when I sin. I admit it. The church is not at fault they are. If not then change Churches. I am not Catholic but if I were I would not be so full of self importance to think the Church should change for me.


51 posted on 10/20/2006 7:29:02 AM PDT by therut
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To: absolootezer0
...yes, but do you stand by that position concerning marriage?

To which post are you referring?...........

52 posted on 10/20/2006 7:29:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: presidio9

These judges really need to read our Constitution. They can not make laws telling "religion" what to do. It's all there in the First Ammendment!


53 posted on 10/20/2006 7:30:41 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: presidio9
If I were a bishop, I'd tell the state, politely of course, to go jump in the lake. We're going to continue to do what we do and we're not going to provide coverage for things we consider sinful. If you don't like it, put us in jail.

It's getting to that point. I just pray that God gives us bishops who are willing to go that far...
54 posted on 10/20/2006 7:31:32 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ruin a Democrat's day...help re-elect Rick Santorum.)
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To: presidio9

The Catholic church's stance on no contraceptives is confusing to me. How can one be against abortion yet not allow contraceptives? Contraceptives should be one acceptable tool used to help prevent unwanted pregnancies.


55 posted on 10/20/2006 7:32:00 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: Bob Buchholz


Not only is healthcare not a "right," but sexual promiscuity is not a requirement for good health. The majority of the Catholic Church's "employees" are celibate.


56 posted on 10/20/2006 7:33:43 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: Sacajaweau
then all employees who use it should be fired

What a silly comment.

Everyone sins in some way or other, everyone violates the moral laws instituted by God and taught by the Church.

There is a difference between being forgiving toward people who commit sins and actively helping them to commit sins.

It is ridiculous to force the Church itself to collaborate in immoral behavior.

57 posted on 10/20/2006 7:34:01 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: longtermmemmory
ther ARE some non birth control reasons to take the birth control pills. (thyroid, painful periods etc)

Thank you for pointing that out. I use birth control pills because I became anemic due to excessively long periods. I know several other women who are using birthcontol pills for similar reasons. While I do not work for the Church, I enjoy the fact that my employer's health insurance package covers my pills.
58 posted on 10/20/2006 7:34:40 AM PDT by Talking_Mouse (wahhabi delenda est)
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To: TruthWillWin

Contraceptives are here to stay.


59 posted on 10/20/2006 7:34:40 AM PDT by tkathy (The Real Republican (RR) way is sticking to the issues and not finger pointing.)
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To: presidio9

The left really wants to eliminate religion.


60 posted on 10/20/2006 7:34:42 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Job # 2 for the left: eliminate religion so that the government will dictate all ethics and morality)
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