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1 posted on 10/18/2006 8:33:55 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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The data storage capabilities required to do this would dwarf anything else out there.

Why not require phone companies to record all conversations, too, just in case the FBI wants to listen to them?

2 posted on 10/18/2006 8:39:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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This is one thing that is so egregious that I really would vote out a republican that supported it. Whatever happened to getting a search warrant?


3 posted on 10/18/2006 8:43:33 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The answer always lies with more freedom; not less)
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""Terrorists coordinate their plans cloaked in the anonymity of the Internet, as do violent sexual predators prowling chat rooms,""

I'm surprised he didn't find a way to fold the War on Some Drugs into terror and predation. The unholy trio usually appear in tandem when freedom is under GOP attack.


4 posted on 10/18/2006 8:46:10 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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I've been expecting this for a long time based on "protecting the children" or protecting the media companies from music and movie sharing. It will be quite interesting to see the push for ISPs to record everything balanced against the growth of wireless technologies and hacking.


5 posted on 10/18/2006 8:47:10 AM PDT by rhombus
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"Terrorists coordinate their plans cloaked in the anonymity of the Internet, as do violent sexual predators prowling chat rooms," Mueller said in a speech at the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Boston. z

Hands up!!!! WHO DIDN'T KNOW that when we get our first female president that the Madam President would have powers to track militias and VRWC "terrorists" over the inter net???

HOLD YOUR HANDS HIGH< PLEASE!!!

10 posted on 10/18/2006 8:52:56 AM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (They Took My Saddle in Houston, Broke My Leg in Santa Fe, Lost Wife + Girlfriend)
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Yeah, I want somebody else to do my job, too. Perhaps the FBI could take care of it if they succeed in offloading their own work to ISPs.


11 posted on 10/18/2006 8:54:03 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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Robert Mueller is an idiot. I would vote against anyone that supports this agenda. Too bad its so close to the election to get a handle on where this is going.


12 posted on 10/18/2006 8:55:14 AM PDT by e_castillo
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Hmmmm, wonder if the ISPers are already tracking? Anyone remember Foley????
13 posted on 10/18/2006 8:55:33 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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innocent until proven guilty?


14 posted on 10/18/2006 8:56:04 AM PDT by Frapster (Don't mind me - I'm distracted by the pretty lights.)
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This is the FBI camel getting its nose under the tent in the guise of the war on terror and to help the children.

Maybe Mueller should go back to trying to get democrats elected by harrassing Republican Candidates.


16 posted on 10/18/2006 8:58:00 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Everyone should be required to wear a GPS ankle bracelet too, 24/7, to keep track of where they go. Sheesh!


19 posted on 10/18/2006 8:59:02 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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FBI Director Robert Mueller on Tuesday called on Internet service providers to record their customers' online activities, a move that anticipates a fierce debate over privacy and law enforcement in Washington next year.

F@#$ the FBI director and what he wants. I didn't pay an ISP to be spied on.

21 posted on 10/18/2006 8:59:27 AM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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[Democrat legislation author Diana] DeGette sought to allay concerns raised by privacy advocates about the approach, adding, "I'm concerned about privacy considerations, too, especially in light of what I believe to be illegal surveillance of telephone records by this administration."

Why are the Republicans (Ed Whitfield, chairman of the House Energy and Commerce oversight and investigations subcommittee, and Joe Barton, chairman of the full committee) giving this moon bat the time of day?

23 posted on 10/18/2006 9:02:00 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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From a technical standpoint, doable, but I believe very expensive.

You would need some sort of passive tap system at all switch uplink ports to capture and redirect traffic to a storage server. Switch hardware and software will also dictate whether you can do ingress, as well as egress captures of traffic.

Or, you could rely on software to do port mirroring of traffic to a storage server connected to a port on the switch.

The storage requirements would be enormous.

A note that this is already the law in higher ed (e.g. CALEA). See http://www.educause.edu/Browse/645?PARENT_ID=698 for more info.


25 posted on 10/18/2006 9:10:50 AM PDT by Fury
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Say NO to Herr Gonzales' obsession with porn. Let him stop investigating us, Lewis Libby and Curt Weldon, and start arresting executives who hire illegal aliens by the hundreds. Start defending the damn border. Oh, I forgot, Herr Gonzales gets his order from Mexico City. Never mind.


29 posted on 10/18/2006 9:32:17 AM PDT by montag813
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Just the government trying to control the internet. I won't vote for anyone who tries to backdoor this kind of crap in under the guise of protecting children. That's a democrat ploy.


30 posted on 10/18/2006 9:38:32 AM PDT by mysterio
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If the left gets back into power they will use this to find people who say "macaca" and get them fired and prosecuted for "hate crimes".
I am not fooling.


32 posted on 10/18/2006 9:47:51 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Extreme Leftism: fascism, communism, nazism. Take your pick.)
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Maybe Glorious Leader in DC needs to remove plank from own eyes. Like the Department of Homeland Deputy Press Secretary who used the Internet to pick up young girls. The GOP and Bush Lackeys are quickly becoming as bad or worse than the Dems. What next speaking ill of the Crown or political disagreement results in your ISP records being examined?

These sorry lying power grabbing JB thugs. All they have to do is write down the ISP of the site and go from there. If they want to find illicit material then they should put two chimps on a computer typing in random URL's and they'll likely find it within an hour. This is all about controlling our lives. The government leadership could care less about da children.

It's a sad day when the GOP is now the enabling party for the likes of these. Good old fashioned police work by surfing the net and acting on it fine. That has been proved to work. Keeping records on law abiding citizens for future usage? NO! Jay Edgar Hoover would be so proud of the FBI Director and Little Caesar our USAG.

33 posted on 10/18/2006 9:51:59 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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