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'We burnt their homes and killed all the men, women and children'
The Times ^ | October 18, 2006 | Martin Fletcher

Posted on 10/17/2006 10:03:26 PM PDT by MadIvan

For three years, this Arab shepherd says, he was forced to raze the villages of black Africans in Darfur

OUTSIDE the back window Bakerloo Line trains rattle past. Downstairs someone makes tea. But in the upstairs living room of a nondescript house off Lambeth Road in South London a slight, softly spoken young man tells a story of atrocities in a far-off land that is anything but mundane.

Dily, a Sudanese Arab, recounts how for three years he and his fellow Janjawid charged the farming villages of Darfur on their camels and horses, raking the huts with gunfire and shouting: “Kill the slaves. Kill the slaves.”

He reckons he attacked about 30 villages in all, and cannot count the people he shot. The villages were invariably destroyed, he says. The homes were burnt to the ground and the men, women and children killed — sometimes with the help of government airstrikes. If there were survivors “they would be left there . . . They couldn’t get help. Sometimes they made it to camps but mostly they died of thirst or starvation”.

Dily is a rarity in that wretched conflict. Filled with disgust, he finally escaped the Janjawid’s clutches and last month, with the help of “people smugglers”, reached Britain, where he is now seeking political asylum. He expresses remorse. He is willing to talk, and the story he tells flatly contradicts the Sudanese Government’s claims that it has no control over the Janjawid — the predominantly Arab “devils on horseback” who have driven two million of Darfur’s black Africans into camps and killed at least 200,000.

He says the Government deceived innocent Arab shepherds like himself into joining the Janjawid, saying they had to defend their communities against attack by Darfur’s black African rebel groups. He says they were trained and armed by Sudanese soldiers, ordered by the Government to attack Darfur’s villages and given military support when necessary. The Janjawid was formed for ethnic cleansing, he insists. “Why (else) would you attack villages, kill people, displace them and kill them in their thousands?”

Dily is not his real name, and he would be photographed only with a scarf around his face and a baseball cap pulled low over his eyes. His wife and young child remain in Sudan and he fears for their safety if he is identified.

Nor can Dily’s story be independently verified, but he specifies names, places and events, speaks with the accent and idiom of the area he says he comes from, and has persuaded Darfuris living in Britain that he is genuine.

“He’s for real,” said Ishag Mekki, the deputy chairman of the Darfur Union, which represents Darfuris in Britain. James Smith, the chief executive of the Aegis Trust, a pressure group which campaigns against genocide, concurs: “We’ve checked his credibility as much as we can and we’re convinced he is who he says he is.”

Dily, who is in his early twenties, rarely smiled and fidgeted nervously with his hands as he spoke through an interpreter. He said he was tending his family’s camel herd in northern Darfur when rebel groups began attacking government targets in 2003: severe droughts had set black African farmers against nomadic Arabs and the rebels accused the Government of siding with the Arabs.

Dily said he was pressed to join the Janjawid by tribal elders, who were under pressure from government officials. “We were told we were Arab nomads and we had to protect our lands and our cattle,” he said.

Dily and about 20 other youths from his area rode off on their camels to a training camp near the town of Kebkabiya where they joined hundreds of other Janjawid recruits. He says uniformed Sudanese soldiers spent about 20 days teaching them how to use guns — a Kalashnikov in his case — and attack villages.

Those with camels were separated from those with horses. They were organised into battalions of more than 500 men each. They were paid two million Sudanese pounds — roughly £500 — for the use of their camels and promised a monthly salary of 500,000 Sudanese pounds.

Then they were unleashed. Apart from occasional visits home, Dily and his battalion — led by a former bandit — spent the next three years on the move, destroying one village after another. “The Government said attack all villages. The local commanders decided which,” he said.

The battalion would send scouts to check whether there were armed fighters in the targeted village. “If there were no fighters we just attacked straight away. If there were we had to be more cautious.” Sometimes they used satellite telephones to request airstrikes by the Sudanese military helicopters before attacking. “We would see smoke and fire and then we would go in.”

The attacks usually started early and lasted most of the day. The commanders said the villages had to be destroyed, and they did not spare women or children. “Mostly they said “Kill the blacks. Kill the blacks,” Dily said. “The majority of (the victims) were civilians, most of them women.”

Dily said he never raped a woman but other Janjawid did. “They took girls and women away, just out of sight, and started to rape them. Sometimes you heard gunshots if they refused.” They took away the cattle. Some were drunk.

Dily said he felt no elation during or after the attacks. He and his colleagues did not even know what they were fighting for, but faced execution if they disobeyed orders. “I hated the war and I hated the killings and decided to leave and to leave Sudan altogether,” he said.

One night he slipped away from the camp, risking death and knowing that he might never see his wife and child again. He hid in the mountains for three days, then made his way to the town of Kutum. A fellow Arab drove him to Mellit, and from there he was smuggled by car to the Libyan border for 500,000 Sudanese pounds. He was determined to reach Britain because, he was told, “it’s different from other European countries. They look after refugees”.

He borrowed money from friends of his father in Tripoli’s Sudanese community and paid $1,200 (£640) to reach Italy on a small boat packed with 25 other illegal immigrants. He paid another $200 to reach Paris by train and $300 to be smuggled into Britain in a lorry carrying boxes of bottled water.

He arrived somewhere — he thinks Oxford — on September 20. He was arrested and sent to Croydon to apply for asylum. He is now living in a hostel, haunted by memories of burning villages. “Anybody who participates in war has to feel sorry for what happened,” he says.

The Aegis Trust plans to present Dily’s testimony to the International Criminal Court as evidence of genocide by Sudan’s leaders, who are still refusing to let United Nations troops into Darfur. “Everything this man says confirms that the Government of Sudan, contrary to its protestations, has been organising and supporting the Janjawid’s ethnic-cleansing operations from the beginning,” said Dr Smith, of the Trust.

Told of Dily’s testimony on a BBC Newsnight programme, Hilary Benn, the International Development Secretary who has just returned from a visit to Sudan, said: “It’s clearly very serious evidence and I would urge that that information is passed to the International Criminal Court investigators.”

THE CONFLICT IN DARFUR

February 2003 The Darfur Liberation Front, later the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA), claims discrimination by the mainly Arabic Government against black Africans

Spring 2004 Government is accused of using Arab militia — Janjawid — against SLA

January 2005 UN reports that Government and militias collaborated to commit atrocities, but “genocidal intent appears to be missing”

May 2006 Government and SLA sign peace deal, promise to disarm the Janjawid

August 2006 Janjawid still armed. UN resolution calls for a peacekeeping force

September 2006 African Union ignores order to leave

October 2006 Bush imposes further sanctions


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: darfur; islam; janjaweed; janjawid; sudan; terrorism; trop
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To: TheCrusader
In this whole article I never saw the word "muslim" or "Christian", even though the marauding janjaweed are mostly Arab muslims and those being massacred by them are Christians.

I never saw that either. Probably because it is not true.

61 posted on 10/18/2006 2:08:04 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Nathan Zachary
Sometimes they call it "tribal warfare" but you can bet 9 times out of 10 there is Muslim involved.

Unfortunately for your argument, that 10th time is known as "Rwanda".

62 posted on 10/18/2006 2:09:32 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Nathan Zachary
especially in northern Africa. Not so much so in the south.

That's true. In southern Africa, most warfare is Christian sponsored, it's just that most people dodn't realize that they were Christians, thanks in part to media hiding that fact in recent times.

63 posted on 10/18/2006 2:11:38 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Nathan Zachary
I'm not sure who promoted the Government in the north, at one time it was a blend, but Muslims have taken it over in recent times.

The Government promouted itself. Bashir came to power in a military coup.

No doubt Frances idea, sinse they have played a large part in Africa screwing things up, like they did in Nigeria.

What did France do in Nigeria?

64 posted on 10/18/2006 2:14:25 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
Who should take the military lead in Darfur? Everybody seems to be looking at the USA. We did not install the government in Sudan.

Our leadership would be consitent with the Bush Doctrine.

65 posted on 10/18/2006 2:15:14 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: brwnsuga
Many black African Christians are being slaughtered as well.

Not so much now, after last year's peace accords.

66 posted on 10/18/2006 2:17:35 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Hoodat

That's what I thought too.


67 posted on 10/18/2006 2:18:42 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (This tag line will be commercial free for the remainder of this thread.)
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To: jackieaxe
My guess is the cry was "Kill the Infidels" not "Kill the Blacks".

Seeing that your "guess" contradicts eyewitness testimony, what do you base it on?

68 posted on 10/18/2006 2:19:35 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: A CA Guy

I personally believe it's because of all the witchcraft and devil worship there. They're so oppressed by evil spirits that I wonder how any of them survive.


69 posted on 10/18/2006 2:43:58 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

And don't forget it was Muslim traders who captured Africans (with a little help from the African chiefs) and sold them into slavery. And whites are blamed??? Cretans!


70 posted on 10/18/2006 2:45:33 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: MadIvan

That article is actually pretty lousy. No mention whatsoever of the role of radical Islam in the genocide. They make it seem like it's nothing but ethnic tensions. The PC media is out of control.


71 posted on 10/18/2006 4:13:11 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: Marysecretary
They're so oppressed by evil spirits that I wonder how any of them survive.

Check out the Book of Daniel, chapter 10...

11
"Daniel, beloved," he said to me, "understand the words which I am speaking to you; stand up, for my mission now is to you." When he said this to me, I stood up trembling.

12
"Fear not, Daniel," he continued; "from the first day you made up your mind to acquire understanding and humble yourself before God, your prayer was heard. Because of it I started out,

13
5 but the prince of the kingdom of Persia stood in my way for twenty-one days, until finally Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me. I left him there with the prince of the kings of Persia,

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and came to make you understand what shall happen to your people in the days to come; for there is yet a vision concerning those days."

15
While he was speaking thus to me, I fell forward and kept silent.

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Then something like a man's hand touched my lips; I opened my mouth and said to the one facing me, "My lord, I was seized with pangs at the vision and I was powerless.

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How can my lord's servant speak with you, my lord? For now no strength or even breath is left in me."

18
The one who looked like a man touched me again and strengthened me, saying,

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"Fear not, beloved, you are safe; take courage and be strong."

20
When he spoke to me, I grew strong and said, "Speak, my lord, for you have strengthened me." "Do you know," he asked, "why I have come to you? Soon I must fight the prince of Persia again. When I leave, the prince of Greece will come;

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but I shall tell you what is written in the truthful book. No one supports me against all these except Michael, your prince,

1
1 standing as a reinforcement and a bulwark for me.

There is evidence for sure of evil spirits over the Middle East even in the Bible.

72 posted on 10/18/2006 4:47:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: LSUfan

What is the role of radical Islam in the genocide?


73 posted on 10/18/2006 4:58:31 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Marysecretary

Why should the white slavetraders be blamed?


74 posted on 10/18/2006 4:59:12 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog
"In this whole article I never saw the word "muslim" or "Christian", even though the marauding janjaweed are mostly Arab muslims and those being massacred by them are Christians."

"I never saw that either. Probably because it is not true."

I was wrong to say that Darfur's victims are mostly Chritians, but Darfur is an Arab/muslim killing ground of genocide and racism, and any article about Darfur that doesn't use the word "muslim" or "islamic" is a joke. As a result of this genocidal warfare millions of black africans have been murdered or displaced, and Christians are included among the victims.

75 posted on 10/18/2006 5:51:15 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: TheCrusader
I was wrong to say that Darfur's victims are mostly Chritians, but Darfur is an Arab/muslim killing ground of genocide and racism, and any article about Darfur that doesn't use the word "muslim" or "islamic" is a joke. As a result of this genocidal warfare millions of black africans have been murdered or displaced, and Christians are included among the victims.

The overwhelming majority of Darfur's residents -- that is to say, the genocide's victims -- are Muslims. An article that includes the words "muslim" or "islamic" could be about supposed trends in the global persecution of Muslims just as easily as the blame-Islam-for-everything article you're salivating over.

76 posted on 10/18/2006 6:14:45 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog
"An article that includes the words "muslim" or "islamic" could be about supposed trends in the global persecution of Muslims just as easily as the blame-Islam-for-everything article you're salivating over."

Islam needs to be exposed for the bloody, barbaric cult which it is. When you have ARAB muslim militias like the "janjaweed" riding through black muslim neighborhoods, (that also include Christians and others), and massacreing them in a racist, genocidal bloodlust, you need to reveal who these folks are. They are MUSLIMS doing what muslims have always done, killing anyone weaker than themselves. When there are no "infidels" around to slaugther, they simply revert to killing each other, (Iran-Iraq war, Iraq tribal warfare, Afghanistan tribal warfare, Sunnis killing Shiites, Shiites killing Kurds, Iraq killing Kuwaitis, etc). Islam is a dark cult of blood and death.

So how can anyone justify writing an article about the genocidal Arab muslim "janjaweed" massacreing tens of thousands of black muslims, without ever using the word "muslim"? The answer is clear, the msm are trying very hard to keep the evils of islam covered in darkness.

77 posted on 10/18/2006 9:31:44 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: TheCrusader
So how can anyone justify writing an article about the genocidal Arab muslim "janjaweed" massacreing tens of thousands of black muslims, without ever using the word "muslim"? The answer is clear, the msm are trying very hard to keep the evils of islam covered in darkness.

I have a question for you: Given that professing Christians massacred Africans for centuries in a racist, genocidal bloodlust, how can anyone write an article about the Rwandan genocide without mentioning that the perpetrators were Chrisitans? It's hard to argue that any religion complicit in that is not a dark cult of blood and death.

78 posted on 10/18/2006 9:37:58 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: TheCrusader
When you have ARAB muslim militias like the "janjaweed" riding through black muslim neighborhoods, (that also include Christians and others), and massacreing them in a racist, genocidal bloodlust, you need to reveal who these folks are.

I don't know why you see it fit to put "Arab" in all-caps.

Also, since you keep insisting on their statistical significance, do you know how many Darfuris are Christians? My understanding is that they are overwhelmingly Muslims.

79 posted on 10/18/2006 9:40:45 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: unspun
It's past time to pressure all of D.C., to defend Christians, worldwide.

Why would they do that? A good number of them don't like Christians either.

80 posted on 10/18/2006 9:40:51 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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