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Pervasive atmosphere of hostility, suspicion permeates Guantanamo
AP ^ | 10/17/6 | Andrew O. Selsky

Posted on 10/17/2006 12:27:49 PM PDT by SmithL

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba (AP) — A military officer probing new charges of prisoner abuse here will encounter a pervasive atmosphere of hostility and suspicion between the detainees and U.S. troops who consider themselves at war.

Even on a recent, controlled visit, an Associated Press reporter and photographer found that the prison brims with hatred. Former prisoners say the guards kick and punch them for no reason and treat them as subhuman. Guards say the inmates fling excrement at them, along with racial slurs and death threats.

Guantanamo is under renewed scrutiny after a U.S. Marine at Camp Pendleton in California, working for a detainee's defense team, said she heard guards boast about beating detainees and depriving them of personal items without provocation. The guards described the abuse as commonplace, the Marine said in an affidavit, prompting the Pentagon's Inspector General to order an investigation.

In an interview at the base, a guard told the AP journalists a detainee used an ugly racist epithet in an attempt to provoke him. A defense attorney accused an interrogator, in an unrelated incident, of using exactly the same language against his client.

"I get threatened all the time. Harassed all the time," the Navy guard, sitting at an umbrella-shaded table in a sun-splashed courtyard, said after finishing his shift. He declined to give his name for security reasons.

The sailor, who is African-American and from Fairfax, S.C., said he was threatened only hours earlier.

"This morning, a detainee woke up as I was walking past his cell, put his hand to his throat and, after using a racial slur, said, 'I will kill you. I will kill you in Iraq,'" he said. "I thought, 'OK,' and kept on going."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bleedingheartattack; guantanamo

1 posted on 10/17/2006 12:27:50 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

WHY DO THEY HATE US?????

(sob)


2 posted on 10/17/2006 12:29:13 PM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: SmithL
A military officer probing new charges of prisoner abuse here will encounter a pervasive atmosphere of hostility and suspicion between the detainees and U.S. troops who consider themselves at war.

DUH Alert!


3 posted on 10/17/2006 12:29:23 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: SmithL

Not for long. President Bush just signed the Detainee bill today. Now we can try them and hang them


4 posted on 10/17/2006 12:29:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: SmithL

They've got to be kidding--was the AP writer expecting an atmosphere of love, trust, camaraderie and mutual respect?


5 posted on 10/17/2006 12:29:58 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: SmithL
found that the prison brims with hatred

WHAT??????!!!!!! No way!!!!

6 posted on 10/17/2006 12:30:48 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: SmithL
Hostility and suspicion?

Prisons are supposed to be happy places full of jolly, carefree fellows.

What went wrong?

7 posted on 10/17/2006 12:30:53 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: SmithL

"Even on a recent, controlled visit, an Associated Press reporter and photographer found that the prison brims with hatred"

Guess the AssPress reporter expected it to be a happy company picknick... what an idiot!


8 posted on 10/17/2006 12:31:28 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: SmithL

--all the more reason to have shot them in Afganistan, when and where they should have been--


9 posted on 10/17/2006 12:31:36 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: SmithL
Former prisoners say the guards kick and punch them for no reason and treat them as subhuman.

Clearly they have done their homework and have studied the Al Quaeda "how to lie to Western media for fun and profit" textbook...

10 posted on 10/17/2006 12:32:32 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: SmithL

jeeze, they hate us..who would have thunk it...

just like the movie animal house...

is it a double secret hatred...

sometimes i think these guys who write these press reports dont actually read what they are saying...

they are in a prison, a P R I S O N...

the marines get my vote...


11 posted on 10/17/2006 12:35:19 PM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

"was the AP writer expecting an atmosphere of love, trust, camaraderie and mutual respect?"

The AP writer was diappointed, as he first fell in love when imprisoned one weekened as a teenager for Minor in Possession.

He was undoubtedly hoping for a hot date.


12 posted on 10/17/2006 12:38:44 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: SmithL
He declined to give his name for security reasons.

The sailor, who is African-American and from Fairfax, S.C.,...

The reporter didn't ID the fellow, but certainly left enough clues for someone to begin looking for him....

13 posted on 10/17/2006 12:41:45 PM PDT by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: SmithL
A military officer probing new charges of prisoner abuse here will encounter a pervasive atmosphere of hostility and suspicion between the detainees and U.S. troops who consider themselves at war.

Because we ARE at war, dipsh!t.

Even on a recent, controlled visit, an Associated Press reporter and photographer found that the prison brims with hatred.

Enemies might harbor animosity for eachother?!?

Former prisoners say the guards kick and punch them for no reason and treat them as subhuman. Guards say the inmates fling excrement at them, along with racial slurs and death threats.

Hmmm...flinging dung...where have I seen that behavior before? Oh yeah, at the ZOO.

14 posted on 10/17/2006 12:52:12 PM PDT by EricT. (The Democrats have decided it will either be a Democrat led America, or no America at all.)
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To: SmithL
Pervasive atmosphere of hostility, suspicion permeates Guantanamo DNC

There I fixed it.

15 posted on 10/17/2006 12:53:20 PM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: Brian Mosely

Exactly. That town is the size of a postage stamp.


16 posted on 10/17/2006 12:56:36 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: SmithL

Usually military prisons are much sunnier.


17 posted on 10/17/2006 1:02:43 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: rellimpank

yup. Leave their dead carcasses on the battlefield.


18 posted on 10/17/2006 1:08:15 PM PDT by steel_resolve (Do you know what a bigot is? Someone winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: SmithL
GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba (AP) — A military officer probing new charges of prisoner abuse here will encounter a pervasive atmosphere of hostility and suspicion between the detainees and U.S. troops who consider themselves at war.

Newsflash to AP : We ARE at war. Gitmo is not a Chuckie Cheese.

Even on a recent, controlled visit, an Associated Press reporter and photographer found that the prison brims with hatred.

I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell ye.

Former prisoners say the guards kick and punch them for no reason and treat them as subhuman.

This is poorly written. Why would "former prisoners" have guards?

What makes any person who belongs to an organization which says specifically targetting civilians including children and which treats prisoners to extra-short haircuts with extra dull knives is part of their strategy think they should be treated as human, and what makes them think other people don't have enough reason to kick and punch them?

There shouldn't be any such thing as a "former prisoner" of Gitmo anyway. At least not a breathing one.

Guards say the inmates fling excrement at them, along with racial slurs and death threats.

Which means we either have a prison full of orangutans and chimpanzees or else we have Democratlike critters. Potential dems most likely since they possess all three qualities - great apes aren't known for profanity or racial slurs.

Guantanamo is under renewed scrutiny after a U.S. Marine at Camp Pendleton in California, working for a detainee's defense team, said she heard guards boast about beating detainees and depriving them of personal items without provocation.

I notice AP left out the fact that she heard this while IN A BAR.

Just for the record, I know someone whose friends, after he left the table in a bar and grill, persuaded an openly liberal waitress that he was a "Navy assassin." When he returned to the table, not knowing what they had done, the ensuing conversation with the waitress about "how could he do his job" was hilarious. What's funnier is this lib waitress probably still believes she met a callous Navy assassin.

The guards described the abuse as commonplace, the Marine said in an affidavit, prompting the Pentagon's Inspector General to order an investigation. In an interview at the base, a guard told the AP journalists a detainee used an ugly racist epithet in an attempt to provoke him. A defense attorney accused an interrogator, in an unrelated incident, of using exactly the same language against his client.

The AP is making an issue of people getting called names? "Mooom... Jamie just called me a dooderhead Macaca!" Is news?

"I get threatened all the time. Harassed all the time," the Navy guard, sitting at an umbrella-shaded table in a sun-splashed courtyard, said after finishing his shift. He declined to give his name for security reasons.

This is AP trying to imply that "Guard loitering in paradise upset by poor underprivileged people"

The sailor, who is African-American and from Fairfax, S.C., said he was threatened only hours earlier.

Translation : The guard is American.

"This morning, a detainee woke up as I was walking past his cell, put his hand to his throat and, after using a racial slur, said, 'I will kill you. I will kill you in Iraq,'" he said. "I thought, 'OK,' and kept on going."

Translation : The guard wonders if the presstitute will leave him alone or will write a piece demonizing him and praising terrorists.

19 posted on 10/17/2006 3:25:19 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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