[presidio9]

ping

[sportutegrl]

We were with our son selling popcorn at a Show and Sell last weekend, when someone felt the need to come up to us and say he wasn't going to buy popcorn to support a group that discriminates against homosexuals. I'm sorry to say that I was so shocked that I didn't have a ready reply and just stood there with my mouth open.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

The Scouts are nowhere without private benefactors. This is the way they've always prospered, at least from my experience.

[silverleaf]

Hopefully philanthropy will step in to save traditional values of scouting.

I don't see why the court would stop at scouting- many churches do not allow perform or sanction gay marriage- I guess they lose their tax exempt status next. Soon USA will be an entire nation where citizens must accept sodomy as a "natural right" to be taught to the youngest of us as just another normal, to obtain federal tax benefits.

[Alberta's Child]

It's about time an organization like the Boy Scouts told these governments to go f#ck themselves, and stop pretending that it is anything other than a private, non-profit organization that abides by its own rules. If they want to have a Sea Scout troop in Berkeley, let them get a wealthy private donor to buy them their own marina.

Any person or group who relies on The State for their well-being and solvency has no reason to complain when The State starts making outrageous demands of them.

Two years ago, the court similarly rejected a Boy Scouts appeal of a case from Connecticut, where officials dropped the group from a list of charities that receive donations from state employees through a payroll deduction plan.

The Boy Scouts were the wrong plaintiff in this case. They would have had a much better chance of succeeding in court if the suit had been brought by a donor who was not permitted to donate to his/her favorite charity through this plan.

[Congressman Billybob]

The AP is engaged in bigoted reporting. The Boy Scouts are not engaging in "discrimination." They are exercising their First Amendment "freedom of association" as recognized by the Supreme Court in Dale v. Boy Scouts.

And this is not a theoretical matter. The decision of the Boy Scouts that it is dangerous to have adult homosexuals as leaders is a matter of the safety of those in their care. Witness Gerry Studds (D-Mass) who actually seduced a young boy, and Mark Foley (R-Fla) who sent nasty messages to a boy.

The Scouts are right on the law, and right on the practicalities of the matter. The AP is being politically correct by avoiding the fact that adult homosexuals are dangerous to young boys.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "An Open Letter to President Bollinger"

Please see my most recent new statement on running for Congress, here.

[CometBaby]

The left's battering of the Boy Scouts has been led by the radical homosexual movement in the Democratic party. That the Democrats led the assault on Scouting will be forever to their shame.

[goldstategop]

This is about outlawing traditional values. California's new SB 1441 law provides a blueprint for how to accomplish it. Which isn't just limited to the Boy Scouts.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[DollyCali]

did you see this?

[cvq3842]

Disgusting, how people hate the Boy Scouts so.

Maybe they should turn their energies against the terrorists, rather than this fine group which chooses to preserve American values.

Oops, I guess that's the problem . . .

[DollyCali]

you might find this thread interesting

[TBP]

Nothing like those great conservative Supreme Court justices.

[polymuser]

A few links of possible interest:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1020917/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663939/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/854123/posts
http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=136820

[polymuser]

Summary Breakdown of the 109th Congress Scouting Survey

Senators/Representatives/Total
Scout 37/151/188
Scout and leader 15/42/57
Leader 0/16/16
Grand total 52/209/261

Eagle Scouts and Special Recognitions

Senators/Representatives/Total
Eagle Scout 8/17/25
Distinguished Eagle Scout 7/4/11
Silver Beaver Award recipient 3/7/10
Silver Buffalo Award recipient 0/1/1
Grand total 18/29/47

(from scouting.org)

[HamiltonJay]

I don't see any of these things as "legal setbacks"... evidence of perverted local governments who think dillusionally that fags around boys doesn't equal sexual abuse far too often.... but I wouldn't say they are legal setbacks.

I think it speaks volumes about the moral clarity lacking in these places.

Just like not all muslims are terrorists, nearly all terrorists are muslims.. same is true for pedophiles and predators when it comes to boys. Not all fags are predatory pedophiles, but nearly all predatory pedophiles are fags. May not be PC, but its the truth, and its a truth the Scouts will refuse pretend not to exist.

If city councilman likes his prostate tickled by another mans genitalia so be it, but he and his buddies won't be in scouts.


They will never accept self destructive, mentally ill, abhorent behavior as morrally exceptable.

[etcetera]

I don't understand how a local government can discriminate against an organization that is doing nothing illegal, just something unpopular.

If the American Nazi Party can hold a parade which isn't illegal, but is unpopular, where's the difference?

[Carry_Okie]

Even so, the California Supreme Court said in March that local governments are under no obligation to extend benefits to organizations that discriminate.

This isn't a matter of "benefits" because the Scouts got the boat berth in return for rock supplied from a Scout owned quarry.

This isn't a matter of "benefits" it's breach of contract.