Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al-Qaeda
Canada Free Press ^ | Wednesday, October 11, 2006 | John Loftus, Jewish Community News 4/10/06

Posted on 10/16/2006 12:09:07 AM PDT by fishhound

had an unusual education in the Holocaust. When I was working for the Attorney General, I was assigned to do the classified research about the Holocaust, so I went underground to a little town called Suitland, Maryland, right outside Washington, D.C., and that's where the U.S. government buries its secrets -- literally.

There are twenty vaults underground and each vault is one acre in size. Anyone see the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark"? The last scene of that movie is what the underground vaults are really like, only not as organized as they are in the movie. And in those underground vaults I discovered something horrible.

I learned that many of the Nazis that I had been assigned to prosecute were on the CIA payroll, but the CIA didn't know they were Nazis because the British Intelligence Service had lied to them. What the British Intelligence Service didn't know was that their liar was Kim Philby, the Soviet communist double agent -- a little scandal of the Cold War. But our State Department swept it all under the rug and allowed the Nazis to stay in America until I was stupid enough to go public with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; azzam; bana; banna; crushislam; ikhwan; islam; islamicfascists; islamofascism; islamofascist; jihad; ksa; loftus; mb; muslimbrotherhood; muslims; nazi; nazis; ohnoloftus; saudi; saudis; terrorism; terrorist
Well worth the read..........
1 posted on 10/16/2006 12:09:08 AM PDT by fishhound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: fishhound

Sorry, he lost me at the "Islam is really a peaceful religion" and "had good relations with Jews for a thousand years".


2 posted on 10/16/2006 12:35:54 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fishhound

I don't think it is worth reading at all. What a lot of silly pro Muslim nonsense.


3 posted on 10/16/2006 12:35:59 AM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fishhound; All

Islam, Nazis, and so much more:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052520/posts?page=1112#1112
These are the Killer Links- the best ( or worst ) I could locate. The videos are particularly damning...


4 posted on 10/16/2006 5:24:21 AM PDT by backhoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: backhoe

Thanks for this link!


5 posted on 10/16/2006 9:47:41 AM PDT by fishhound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: fishhound

Thanks for looking.


6 posted on 10/16/2006 12:58:03 PM PDT by backhoe ("Say I'm Violent? I will *KILL* you! ( ROP Alert... ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

Comment #7 Removed by Moderator

To: fishhound; jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; AmericanArchConservative; Former Dodger; Dark Skies; ...
Bumping, tapping, knockin', pinging...

Interesting article, especially for those who have not read Bob Baer's "Sleeping with the Devil" or an even better book (IMHO) Hatred's Kingdom (How Saudi Arabia Supports the New Global Terrorism) by Dore Gold.

While I don't agree with the article entirely* and don't have the time to comment on it one point at a time, it gives a brief summary of the history and influence of the ikhwan (Muslim brotherhood) and the relationship between a few of the major players such as Abdullah Azzam, OBL, the Nazi movement, and the KSA.

[* For eg, too bad it circumvented the islamic ideological roots (delving into the writings and brain of the MB/Ikhwan's Sayyid Qutb would have been a good place to start, and then trace back to Ibn Taymiyya for eg,) and glossed over the first "1000 years of islam" as if it was a golden period of tolerance and harmony while Jews, pagans and all other infidels were being forcibly converted, exterminated or driven out of the entire hijaz, and then beyond.]

8 posted on 10/16/2006 7:30:01 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: USF

The Nazi-Islamist Connection
Herbert Eiteneier on
Djihad und Judenhass: Über den neuen antijüdischen Krieg
by Matthias Küntzel



This is an important book because it explicitly addresses common German/European misconceptions about Islamism and the Middle East conflict and counters them with documented, factual information.

Küntzel's aim is to correct views that have become conventional wisdom in the West. He traces the history of Islamism (radical, militant Islam) from its modern beginnings with Hassan al-Banna in the 1920s in Egypt and the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, in Mandatory Palestine until today's Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and Al Qaeda. This trend, he shows, is inherently anti-Semitic and pursues its ideological agenda through murder and violence.

Küntzel points out that Islamism would not have succeeded without the combination of al-Banna and Husseini. In the latter half of the 1930s, they received financial and ideological assistance from Nazi Germany, and after World War II were aided by Nazis brought to Egypt.



A Deep-Rooted Anti-Semitism
At the same time, Küntzel notes the differences between Islamism and Nazism. Referring to the writings and teachings of al-Banna and Husseini and their successors - principally Sayeed Qutb and Ahmed Yassin, respectively - he demonstrates that Islamism's ideological and genocidal anti-Semitism predates its contacts with the Nazis. The Muslim Brotherhood introduced its ideology to Arab societies by following a three-step agenda: first establishing its views and principles in society, then the elimination of Muslim opponents, and afterward aggression against the Jews.

Küntzel also discloses the widely unknown fact that it was the Mufti who first made overtures to Nazi Germany, which at first was reluctant to accept them for fear of offending the British. The German Foreign Office only began to respond after the Peel Commission's plan made a Jewish state in Mandatory Palestine seem possible, something it sought to prevent at all costs. Subsequently, the Mufti prevailed, first by fomenting terror in Palestine, then by broadcasting propaganda to the Arabs from Berlin, setting up a Muslim SS division, and opposing leniency toward the Jews by countries that belonged to the Axis but were not under direct Nazi rule such as Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and Italy. When he could, he also sabotaged all attempts at rescue, including children.

Also not widely known are the lasting effects of the Nazi ideology in the Middle East. Nasser had strong sympathies for Nazi Germany, as did many of his compatriots in the Egyptian military. After World War II, as mentioned, Egypt welcomed Nazis who continued their war against the Jews. They helped distribute anti-Semitic writings and broadcasts to foster hatred not only of Israel, but all Jews, using and supplementing the language and thinking of the Muslim Brotherhood. One such achievement was the translation of Mein Kampf into Arabic.

Depicting the manifold relationships between leading members of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and political as well as terrorist leaders of the Middle East, Küntzel demonstrates that the ideological origins of present-day terrorism were in Egypt - not in Saudi Arabia, as many now believe. It was in Egypt that the Brotherhood laid the groundwork for today's Islamist movement. Despite changes in strategy - from fighting mainly the "infidel" Arab establishment since the mid-1950s to switching priority to the "Zionist entity" and the United States since the 1990s - one aim always prevailed: extermination of the Jews. This was not linked to Israeli policies but to the very existence of the Jewish state in what Islamists believe is an integral part of the House of Islam.

Küntzel also points to the ties between the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and major political and military figures of the Palestinian movement, and notes that today's Palestinian leaders' genocidal attitudes are identical to those of Arab leaders in the past. Thus, both for Yasser Arafat and Sheikh Yassin, Oslo was only an interim stage toward Israel's destruction. Palestinian maps, including in textbooks, do not show Israel at all; Palestinian sources omit the Mufti's role in Nazism and deny the Holocaust, while viewing jihad as the only means to defeat Israel. A mostly overlooked point is the Palestinian Authority's explicitly authorizing the dissemination of the 1999 edition of Mein Kampf, whose preface by the translator declares that Hitler was one of the few great men in history and that National Socialism did not die with its founder.



German Misperceptions
Although relating to the subject throughout the book, Küntzel devotes the last chapter to German perceptions about the Middle East. In Germany, the Left as well as the extreme-Right and neo-Nazi camps support terror against Israel and the United States as a struggle for freedom. The Left - and increasingly, mainstream groups - mistakenly view Islamist terror as expressing the frustration and desperation of a progressive anticapitalist movement. They do not seem to grasp that an anticapitalist mass movement could be of a fascist character, instead ignoring or denying the blatantly fascist aspects. In reality, common fascistic and anti-Jewish themes led neo-Nazi groups to embrace Islamists as brothers-in-arms against the "Jewish world conspiracy." Küntzel shows how both Left and Right embrace anti-Semitism by supporting Islamism without understanding its aspirations to world dominance.

Although Küntzel's study is well documented, he demonstrates what is not esoteric, but denied: that the Islamist mass movement must be understood in a societal context, not in terms of political and economic postulates. Küntzel's special contribution is to provide this context that is missing from the perceptions both of Germany's ideological fringes and its mainstream.


http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-eiteneier-s06.htm


9 posted on 10/16/2006 8:14:34 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: USF
WHERE ARE THEY NOW? Nazis during WWII Under Hitler

After the war…

Altern Erich Post-war name: Ali Bella Regional Chief SD (Himmler’s Security Services), Jewish Affairs in Galicia In Egypt during the 50’s, then instructor in Palestinian camps

Appler Hans Post-war name: Sakah Chaffar Information services with Goebbels Egypt 1956: Minister of Information

Bartel Franz Post-war name: El Hussein Assistant Chief of the Kattowitz Gestapo (Poland) Since 1959, Jewish Affairs of the Ministry of Information in Cairo.

Baurnann, SS Standartenuhrer Participated in liquidation of Jewish Warsaw ghetto Minister of War in Cairo. Instructor for the FLP (Liberation Front of Palestine)

Bayerlein, Col. Fritz Rommel’s camp aid Egypt

Becher Hans Gestapo Jewish affairs, Vienna Alexandria, Egypt. Police instructor

Beissner, Dr Wilhelm Section Chief VI C 13RSHA Egypt

Bender Bernhardt Post-war name: Bechir Ben Salah Gestapo, Warsaw Consultant for Political Police in Cairo

Birgel Werner Post-war name: El Gamin SS Officer Cairo, Egypt. Worked in Ministry of Information

Boeckler Wilhelm SS Untersturmfuhrer Wanted in Poland for the liquidation of the Jewish Warsaw ghetto Egypt since 1949. Worked in Israel Department of Information Bureau in Egypt.

Boerner, Wilhelm Post-war name: Ali Ben Keshir. SS Untersturmfuhrer Guard at Mauthausen concentration camp Worked at Egyptian Interior Ministry. Also instructor of the FLP (Liberation Front of Palestine)

****Brunner Alois**** Post-war name: Georg Fisher and Ali Mohammed In charge of deportation of Jews in Austria, Tchecoslovakia, Greece. Chief of Drancy concentration camp in France. Damascus, Syria. Consultant for Special Services. Protected against extradition by Syrian government.

Buble Friedrich Post-war name: Ben Amman, SS Obergruppenfuhrer Gestapo Director of Egyptian Public Relations Department -1952. Consultant for Egyptian police force.

Bunsch Franz, SA. OBersturmfuhrer Collaborator with Goebbels Israel Department in the Information Ministry in Cairo, Egypt.

Daemling Joachim Post-war name: Jochen Dressel or Ibrahim Mustapha Dusseldorf Chief of Gestapo Consultant for Egyptian penitentiary system. Active member of Radio-Cairo (Radio-Le Caire)

Dirlewanger Oskar, Oberfuhrer Chief of 36th Waffen SS division (USSR-Poland) Some say in Cairo since 1950. Others claim that he died June 7 1945 in Germany under house-arrest.

Eisele Dr Hans Chief doctor of Buchenwald concentration camp. Died in Cairo in 1965.

Farmbacher Wilhelm, SS Lieutenant-General Wehrmacht Eastern Front, Supervisor of Vlassov Army in France in 1944 Military consultant for Egyptian President Nasser.

Gleim Leopold Post-war name: Lt-Col Al Nashar Unit Chief in Warsaw High ranking officer in Egyptian national security departement, in charge of political prisonners.

Gruber Post-war name:Aradji Canaris recruit in 1924. Egyptian resident 1950: Influencial agent within the Arab League

Heiden Ludwig Post-war name: El Hadj Journalist for anti-jewish agency Weltdienst (NSDAP) Converted to Islam. Translator of Mein Kampf into Arabic. Lived in Egypt in the 1950’s.

Heim, Heribert. SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Medical doctor at Mauthausen concentration camp Became medical doctor for Egyptian police.

Hitholfer Franz High ranking officer of Gestapo in Vienna Lived in Egypt in 1950’s

*** Von Leers, Dr Johannes*** Post-war name: Omar Amin Goebbels’ assistant, in charge of antisemitic propaganda. In Egypt, he was in charge of anti-israeli propaganda in Cairo since 1955.

Luder, Karl Chief of Hitler Youth movement. Held responsible for anti-semitic crimes in Poland. War Minister in Egypt.

Mildner, Rudolf. SS Standartenfuhrer Gestapo Chief in Kattowitz. Chief of police in Danemark. In Egypt since 1963. Member of Deutscher Rat organization.

Moser Alois, Gruppenfuhrer SS Wanted in USSR for crimes against Jews. Instructor of paramilitary youth groups in Cairo.

Munzel Oskar SS General Military consultant Cairo, during the 50’s.

Nimzel Gerd von. Post-war name: Ben Ali Egypt. 1950’s.

Oltramare, Georges Post-war name: Charles Dieudonne Director of Pilori in France during German occupation Responsible for TV show ‘La voix des Arabes’ (The voice of Arabs) in Cairo. Died 1960.

Peschnik Aehim Dieter Post-war name: El-Said Resides in Egypt

Rademacher Granz Post-war name: Thome Rossel 1940-43. Headed Anti-jewish section of Foreign Affairs Ministry. Journalist in Damascus.

Rauff, Walter Chief of SD (Himmler’s Security Services) in Tunisia. In Syria until 1961. Was arrested and released in Chili in 1962. |

Seipel. SS Sturmbannfuhrer Post-war name: Emmd Zuher Gestapo in Paris. Converted to Islam. Security Services with Interior Ministry in Cairo. |

Sellman, Heinrich Post-war name: Hassan Suleiman Chief of Gestapo in Ulm. Ministry of Information in Cairo. Egyptian Special Services. |

Thiemann, Albert. Post-war name: Amman Kader SS officer in Tchecoslovakia Information Ministry in Cairo.q

Weinmann, Erich, SS Standartenfuhrer Chief of SD(Himmler’s Security Services) in Prague. Said to have died in 1949. In fact, he became consultant to Alexandria’s police force in Egypt.

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/where.html

10 posted on 10/16/2006 8:25:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Kozak

nine eleven


11 posted on 10/16/2006 8:26:49 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kozak

Well, this is written Loftus. He's known to be a little creative.


12 posted on 10/16/2006 8:32:38 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Fred Nerks
Thanks Fred, that (real location of fmr Nazis) was one of the several other parts of the article that needed to be addressed. I just dont have the time or inclination for it, and skimmed over much of the disagreeable points in the article (and there were many) to see where he was joining the dots related to the ikhwan.

I think the last time you posted that, I commented (sarcastically) "jizra well spent!" and a link to how much money we have paid in tributes to Egypt.

13 posted on 10/16/2006 8:36:36 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: USF

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 10/16/2006 10:01:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson