Posted on 10/14/2006 11:16:50 AM PDT by lizol
Keep Darwin's 'lies' out of Polish schools: education official 2 hours.
WARSAW (AFP) - Poland's deputy education minister called for the influential evolutionary theories of Charles Darwin not to be taught in the country's schools, branding them "lies."
"The theory of evolution is a lie, an error that we have legalised as a common truth," Miroslaw Orzechowski, the deputy minister in the country's right-wing coalition government, was quoted as saying by the Gazeta Wyborcza daily Saturday.
Orzechowski said the theory was "a feeble idea of an aged non-believer," who had come up with it "perhaps because he was a vegetarian and lacked fire inside him."
The evolution theory of the 19th-century British naturalist holds that existing animals and plants are the result of natural selection which eliminated inferior species gradually over time. This conflicts with the "creationist" theory that God created all life on the planet in a finite number.
Orzechowski called for a debate on whether Darwin's theory should be taught in schools.
"We should not teach lies, just as we should not teach bad instead of good, or ugliness instead of beauty," he said. "We are not going to withdraw (Darwin's theory) from the school books, but we should start to discuss it."
The deputy minister is a member of a Catholic far-right political group, the League of Polish Families. The league's head, Roman Giertych, is education minister in the conservative coalition government of Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski.
Giertych's father Maciej, who represents the league in the European Parliament, organised a discussion there last week on Darwinism. He described the theory as "not supported by proof" and called for it be removed from school books.
The far-right joined the government in May when Kaczynski's ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, after months of ineffective minority government, formed a coalition including LPR and the populist Sambroon party.
Roman Giertych has not spoken out on Darwinism, but the far-right politician's stance on other issues has stirred protest in Poland since he joined the government.
A school pupils' association was expected to demonstrate in front of the education ministry on Saturday to call for his resignation.
Darn it!
annihilable = annihilatable.
Does such a word even exist?
And those very theistic scientists are the ones who recognized the necessity of divorcing the supernatural from the scientific. This is quite the opposite of those current theists who desire to slip theology back into science. In other words, the current crop of anti-evolutionists want to take us back to the time *before* the scientific process was developed.
The Biblical creation stories are quite consistent and when you compare them with the other views on the origin of the world at the time (3000 years ago) you will be amazed how akin they are to the modern scientific theories. Taking into account that the Bible is not to be a biology handbook for XX century but a description of spiritual relationship between God and Creation the scientific accuracy of Biblical account is sufficient.
Much better in any case that Germanic primordial cow licking the first giant out of piece of ice or scientific theories from that time.
What kind of evidence would you accept for evolution and why?
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Since you and your evolutionist comrades make the assertion that man is descendant from apes, about you and your friends giving us all the evidence for once?
You can't because there is none.
The kind that proves beyond a reasonable doubt to scientists that man is descendant from apes.
If we are descendant from apes, how come apes are still around?
I know this question has been asked several times, and I ask it again only because it's a valid question, which evolutionists still haven't answered, other than with a canned, ready-made non-direct response.
Actually those theistic scientists who were instrumental in the development of the scientific method were the ones who recognized the importance of *not* including their God in their experiments and their conclusions.
Do you care to point out the passage where Darwin claims "that the universe is a dead purposeless machine ruled by chance?" I've read him extensively, and never have I run accross such a passage.
No, I'm lashing out against stupid fundamentalists. Not all Christians are fundamentalists. In fact, I'm a Christian who's not a fundamentalist.
At least on threads referencing Jonathan Wells.
Examples? State your assumptions. Don't leave out any steps. Check your work.
That's been done. The vast majority of scientists, especially those in the fields related to Evolution have no doubt that man shares common ancestors with the other Great Apes.
That doesn't really answer my question. I asked what evidence *you* would accept and why.
"If we are descendant from apes, how come apes are still around?
Because speciation occurs when one population splits into two separate populations each following its own path. The population of our common ancestor with the chimpanzees split into two populations, one became the chimps we are familiar with and the other group became us. The common ancestor we have with chimps had a common ancestor with Gorillas. That population split into two, one group leading to modern Gorillas and the other leading to the common ancestor of the group that later split and lead to chimps and man.
The question really is equivalent to asking 'Why are there still Standard Poodles when we have Toy Poodles.
"I know this question has been asked several times, and I ask it again only because it's a valid question, which evolutionists still haven't answered, other than with a canned, ready-made non-direct response.
The answers you get are similar not because they are 'canned' responses but because they stem from the same information and the same logical consequences of Evolution.
Note that the usual scatalogical postings by Creationists have occured. Their silence echos their assent.
Orzechowski said the theory was "a feeble idea of an aged non-believer," who had come up with it "perhaps because he was a vegetarian and lacked fire inside him."
OMG that is too funny!
How many times can this reporter write "coservative" and "right wing" in an article?? Geesh.
Not true.
Christianity gave rise to the greatest civilization of all times and all that is known in science.
Other religions gave some, but only because they fed on the benevolence of Christianity.
Was Orzechowski away?
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