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Senator fights the tide, calls warming by humans a hoax
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/11/6 | Zachary Coile

Posted on 10/11/2006 8:09:47 AM PDT by SmithL

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says the debate whether humans are changing the climate is over. Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, says the science linking human activity to global warming is overwhelming.

President Bush recently called global warming "a serious problem." He said there is still uncertainty over how much of the warming is natural and how much man-made, but he added that it was time to "get beyond the debate" and deploy new technologies to curb greenhouse gases.

But in the U.S. Senate, one prominent lawmaker isn't buying it.

Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., has argued repeatedly that the idea that humans are warming the climate is a hoax. In a speech on the Senate floor last month, he declared that the "greatest climate threat we face may be coming from alarmist computer models."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: arizona; california; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; inhofe; inhofegw; jamesinhofe; johnmccain; oklahoma; schwarzenegger
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To: pissant

Part of this is the belief that man always messes everything up, including paradise (Garden of Eden). Yet, it seems grandiose to believe that man could totally ruin a planet. Is there conclusive scientific proof?


21 posted on 10/11/2006 9:12:54 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SmithL

This warming spell began when the North American ice sheet began to melt. There wasn't a factory or an SUV in sight.

End of discussion.


22 posted on 10/11/2006 9:38:41 AM PDT by RoadTest (The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth.)
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To: SmithL

You go, Senator!!!


23 posted on 10/11/2006 9:52:08 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"In the judgment of most climate scientists, Earth's warming in recent decades has been caused primarily by human activities that have increased the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere."

They could have said opinion but judgment sounded more official. Do we pay scientists to be judges, politicians, and opinion writers?

Scientific proof requires double-blind experiments with a control. These experiments must be repeatable and the cause and effect relationship must be provable and strong to be of use. CO2 levels rising 0.1% over several hundred years, from 0.28 to 0.38%, is not significant enough to be entirely responsible for a 5% increase in temperature.

We are short on experiments that show us the optimum temperature to support quality of human life. That setting is likely warmer than it is today. And we are short on how to inexpensively make white reflecting clouds and snow to actively manage where and when the Sun's energy heats the surface. Why do we spend billions on detecting a tiny amount of global warming and very little on technologies that can manage the climate?

Climate management technologies will eventually be funded by the Department of Defense. They will never come from scientists or the UN. If we could induce a directed hurricane we could do more damage to North Korea than an atomic bomb.

24 posted on 10/11/2006 9:55:07 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: RoadTest

Living in Seattle I always view it in terms of "do I want palm trees or 1 mile of ice piled up in my backyard?" Its amazing to think that not too long ago there WAS about a mile of ice over my head!


25 posted on 10/11/2006 10:04:32 AM PDT by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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"Living in Seattle I always view it in terms of "do I want palm trees or 1 mile of ice piled up in my backyard?" Its amazing to think that not too long ago there WAS about a mile of ice over my head!"

This is a non-sequiter, but whenever we travel I always express my preference for places with palm trees. When I found out we were going to Alaska on a cruise, I said NO NO! That's the wrong direction. I want to go SOUTH! Lets go to the Caribbean.

Well, we began our cruise in Vancouver, and there in the median were 6 or 8 palm trees in two rows. The sightseeing guide said, "'Course, they don't grow very fast here. In fact, they haven't gotten any bigger during my lifetime".

One more thing: Our next trip was to London, England in February. Yup - there were a couple of live palm trees outside a pub in downtown London. I have travelled so far only to places where there are palm trees. :-)


26 posted on 10/11/2006 11:10:13 AM PDT by RoadTest (The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth.)
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27 posted on 02/20/2007 10:34:37 AM PST by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene

I can only imagine what 2010 will bring us.


28 posted on 02/20/2007 11:00:19 AM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: what's up

What did O'Brian say that?

CA....


29 posted on 02/20/2007 11:14:31 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Zathras
Remember how settled the science was in the build-up to the Y2K scare? Worse yet, it's foregone conclusion would be manifest on a date certain, just to drive the point home.

Refresh my memory - how'd that turn out?

CA....
30 posted on 02/20/2007 11:20:22 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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