For the Record ~ We Are NOT A Democracy!

American Chronicle ^ | October 8, 2006 | Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D.

[hedgetrimmer]

Children today are not taught about the value of the Constitution

Then, once they get to law school, they are taught how to circumvent it for global profit-taking.

[Larousse2]

Speaking of "lashing out," do you happen to know the make and model of that most handsome shotgun used on occasion by Bree Van De Kamp on "Desperate Housewives"? Is it perchance a Winchester "Defender"?

[hedgetrimmer]

Getting them to see beyond their narrow view will be a monumental task.

Impossible, as long as they are cashing in on 'free traitin'

[michigander]

Farrand's Records, The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787

The easiest way I've found to navigate through this is:
If you look to the left you'll see 'Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3.
Click on Volume 1
On the page it opened, click on 'Navigator' near the top of the page
The page it opened should be a break down of the Volume by date with Madison's notes seperated out.
Volume 2 and 3 work the same way.

Hamilton's speech occured on June 18th. and there is also a record of his plan in volume 3 under 'Appendix F The Hamilton Plan'.

Enjoy!

[Rockitz]

I fully support W on any number of issues, but he's clueless on immigration.

[F.J. Mitchell]

"The dumbing down is basically complete."

I don't see how the dumbing down can progress much farther without shutting the portions of the brain involved in involuntary functions such as breathing,sweating etc.

[Eastbound]

"For the Record ~ We Are NOT A Democracy!

For the Record, we are NOT a Republic either.

We are what happens when government no longer fears the people.

Checked your domestic tranquility lately? Checked your liberty lately? Checked your property rights lately?

[Eastbound]

Exactly!

In either case,

[ableLight]

Awesome source, thanks!

[ableLight]

Thanks! Another great source.

[ableLight]

Apologies, I slipped. I should have written "via an electoral college". But I didn't realize that the term was limited to 7 years.

Reading the primary source it is now clear to me that there is much myth about what Hamilton believed, or at least what he publicly presented as his platform.

His "grand speech" was apparently his version of how the Constitution should read. In it I could find no evidence of some of the proposals ascribed to him and found some new ones:

1.) There is no proposal in his platform to dissolve states or eliminate their sovereignty to govern. Non-sovereign provinces would have, by definition, made him a *non* federalist.
2.) Likewise, nothing to have the 'president' appoint State governors. He only stated that they shall be "appointed by authority of the United States"; leaving the exact mechanism not Constitutionally prescribed.
3.) He proposed a two-tiered electoral college
4.) He advocated requisite qualifications for Senators as land-holders.
5.) He was more liberal about letting Congress determine details now explicit in the "Madisonian" Constitution. Example: he prescribed 6 to 12 Justices for the Supreme Court and offered no fixed number.

Still reading

[hosepipe]

There are three words NOT found anywhere in the United States Constitution..
1) Democracy..
2) Democratic..
3) democrat...

Its by design.. as is the fact this fact is omitted from ANY civics course in the U.S... the brain wash continues..
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Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.~Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

NOTE: Socialism comes from(originates in) democracy not the other way around..

[Rockitz]

CORRECTION: Powerline received a note from Tony Snow who says W will sign the fence bill when it arrives from Capitol Hill.

See today's post. http://www.powerlineblog.com/

We'll see.

[philman_36]

Our founders in the American republic at the end of the eighteenth century left us with some very good advice that they enshrined in our founding documents and which we have over our centuries of development attempted to adapt to modern conditions. They warned us about unaccountable power, they warned us about creating checks and balances, and they set up a system that they thought would create a balance of power.
Hillary Rodham Clinton (of all people) at the Annual Meeting of the World Economic Forum (since the original link no longer works)

Oh, they know.

[Publius]

There is no proposal in his platform to dissolve states or eliminate their sovereignty to govern. Non-sovereign provinces would have, by definition, made him a *non* federalist.
Likewise, nothing to have the 'president' appoint State governors. He only stated that they shall be "appointed by authority of the United States"; leaving the exact mechanism not Constitutionally prescribed.

I got these two points from another FReeper on a thread with content similar to this one. I accepted it without question and should have checked the source firsthand.

Thanks.

[Czar]

"Many of us have remarked on the erosion of indivdiual rights in this country since the 'free traitors' infested our government and have been corrupting it to meet their own ends."

And these NWO/Globalists will continue to spin and deny because, to recognize what this is doing to our national sovereignty and rights as citizens, is to admit they are in favor of these negative impacts. I'm still waiting for one of them to drop the mask and stand up and confess that free trade is more important than any dilution of national sovereignty and citizens' rights.

[Ladysmith]

Bookmarked and BTTT.

[B4Ranch]

Very insightful people would have those concerns:

They expressed grave concern regarding the fact that the document left too open the possibilities that:

The American people would one day suffer an egregious tax burden.

And, that press might coagulate into a "cabal" that would attempt to undermine the country.

How do you think they would feel knowing their fears came to fruition?

[B4Ranch]

Our choices with the two parties, are soviet style socialism, or council style corporatist fascism. Take your pick.

It is time to bring about a 3rd Party!

[Reaganwuzthebest]

NAFTA is one of the main reasons we have so much illegal immigration as Mexico was devastated with the implementation of NAFTA.

Wait until CAFTA kicks in, another reason that fence needs to get put up now.