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Caruba: The Subversion of Education in America - A Special 4-Part Series
National Anxiety Center (Not what you think...) ^ | Alan Caruba

Posted on 10/10/2006 7:18:17 AM PDT by cgk

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To: maine-iac7

Reagan couldn't even begin to deliver on his pledge to try to get rid of DOE because not one Congressman was willing to sponsor the bill. School reform? Only in some parallel universe...Homeschool or private school, but never school by government


41 posted on 10/10/2006 11:29:10 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: cgk
"... but I would hope that all parents would put their children's needs first."

Sadly, they don't though. The vast majority want the government to "spoon feed" their children an education. What's really taking place though is that there is more indoctrination than education going on.

42 posted on 10/10/2006 12:40:34 PM PDT by davisfh
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Sadly, they don't though. The vast majority want the government to "spoon feed" their children an education.

SO true. A woman I knew back in CA had 2 little ones the same age as my own. We were talking about Reiner (meathead's) Universal Preschool Initiative. She thought it was a great idea - more free child care, and all day! Kindergarten doesn't come fast enough for some parents, sadly.

43 posted on 10/10/2006 12:44:32 PM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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The "voucher" program exists to give the federal government control over private schools because, whoever pays the piper, chooses the tune. Schools that accept voucher students will soon find themselves required to accept federal education regulations as well.

Obviously the government can figure out a way to screw up anything. Actually, I am not a supporter of federal vouchers, but I would like to see each state change over, on its own. Of course, it would be very important to minimize state control of the schools, at the same time.

Admittedly, it's a difficult battle to get them implemented, and to get them implemented correctly, but the stakes are high, and it's a good fight.

44 posted on 10/10/2006 1:50:49 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: JamesP81

this needs a bump


45 posted on 10/10/2006 5:10:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: 3niner

"Vouchers. (For all students, in all states.)"

Uhhhh. No. Vouchers are a crummy idea for a few of reasons. First, the reality is that he who pays the piper calls the tune. Second, vouchers are a nonstarter politically and thus a waste of time and effort.

You can usually tell faux conservative politicians by how quickly they jump on the voucher bandwagon. Supporting vouchers gives the appearance of supporting educational reform, but since they're unlikely to ever be instituted, faux conservatives need not worry about actually them actually changing anything.


46 posted on 10/10/2006 5:44:30 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: cgk

"Isn't that a sad fact."

It's also highly ironic when you find yourself debating with nanny state "conservatives", and you consider for a moment that you happen to be the self-identified Democrat in the crowd.


47 posted on 10/10/2006 5:54:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; bboop; blu; cgk; Clintonfatigued; ...
ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL PING!

I haven't read this entire article yet, but it looks like a good one. Looking forward to reading it tomorrow when I'm not so tired after a long day. Enjoy. :-)

This ping list is for the "other" articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.

48 posted on 10/10/2006 9:29:01 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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Thanks cgk. Bookmarked for a later read and commentary. (o:


49 posted on 10/11/2006 12:58:03 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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