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The Return of Sexual McCarthyism (outrageous!)
The American Thinker ^ | 10/7/2006 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/08/2006 8:33:02 AM PDT by Dark Skies

Edited on 10/08/2006 10:13:03 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The left, in possession of a scandal which they think can drive a wedge between evangelicals and the GOP, is behaving like a shark driven mad by the scent of blood in the water. Certain individuals strike out blindly in a political feeding frenzy. There’s no telling what wounds will be inflicted on whom.

How else to account for the dynamic at work, with people like Lawrence O’Donnell coyly dropping itty-bitty hints in the Huffington Post that a certain key GOP figure might be a little light in the loafers, nudge-nudge, wink-wink.

There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual. But it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch up on. And then there’s breakfast for anything they forgot to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there’s all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more than any other co-workers in the Congress.

Of course, O’Donnell, with both a DC and Hollywood imprint on his career, stays in the realm of deniability. But his Huffpo commenters get it. A brief sample:

How do we know they aren’t lovers as well?Their living arrangement sounds creepy – and Hastert looks like a perv anyway

By: georgann on October 07, 2006 at 11:21am Flag: [abusive]

and

His roomie? Yipes! Do they “wrestle” before hitting the shower? Jockstrap lover boys in the GOP are not surprising, but that they are so open about it is. Methinks there is a very big scandal brewing indeed that’s going to make sadsack Foley look no worse than a bag boy in a drug organization.These Republicans are very, very strange. And I have to agree with fourex—why does the press keep quiet about this sort of oddball stuff? I mean, if this chief of staff was a (gasp!) woman, would they not have been all over it like a chicken on a june bug from day one?

By: illotus on October 07, 2006 at 11:31am Flag: [abusive]

I do not think that the feminist organizations have ever recovered from their betrayal of all their principles in their defense of Bill Clinton’s behavior with Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and Kathleen Willey (among others). They lost legitimacy in the eyes of too many in the public, and even in the press. Flamboyantly-betrayed principles do not ever again function as an effective political weapon.

Mainstream members of the homosexual community have a lot on the line with the Foley case. A new rule book is being written for behavior expected of homosexuals with consenting adult young males. It appears at this moment that Foley has not either touched or solicited anyone under 18.

Our society as a whole, and specifically our federal government, has already decided that it is perfectly legitimate to be a homosexual and function as a valued member of Congress or federal employee. But now, homosexuality is being treated as a matter of shame, and Republicans are being castigated as insufficiently suspicious of a gay male. Homosexuality is being taken as a danger sign, requiring extra care.

And the fact that Foley is claimed to have had a sexual relationship with a 21 year old former page is making headlines in the Los Angeles Times and beyond. Foley evidently was punctilious about observing the rules.

“I always knew you were a player but I don’t fool around with pages,” declared one instant message from Maf54, a screen name used by Foley in exchanges that have now become public involving a number of male former pages.The former page’s account is consistent with Foley’s assertion that he did not have sexual relations with minors, a question that will be key to determining whether he committed criminal acts. Although the legal age of consent varies from state to state, in the District of Columbia, where the pages live in supervised dormitories, it is 16.Yet the former page’s exchanges with Foley offer a glimpse of possible predatory behavior by the congressman as he assessed male teenagers assigned as House errand runners.

Are gay men from now on supposed to have nothing to do with younger men until they are above the age of consent? What about all those gay scoutmasters the left wants to empower to go out on camping trips?

The mind of middle America is deeply uneasy about the idea that older homosexuals become friends with underage men, and then when they come of age, engage in sex. That’s why the visceral reaction to Foley, whatever the legalities, is so strong.

Shall we propose legislation that criminalizes sexual activities between consenting adult homosexuals if they came into contact before one of them was 16 or 18 or what ever the local age of consent is? And for that matter, what about heterosexuals?

Such a comprehensive law would be welcome, certainly by parents of both boys and girls. But I doubt very much that the gay community is interested in its passage. In fact, I strongly suspect that is a cause it would prefer not to discuss.

But once the point is conceded in the case of Foley that something truly objectionable has taken place, can ordinary homoexuals working in ordinary jobs ever feel secure again? Conceding that homosexuality combined with friendliness to young males is a danger sign warranting official inquiry is a big step in that direction.

And when the frenzy turns to outing or casting aspersions, nobody is safe, even practicing heterosexuals who happen to like show tunes, or have close male friends, or dress more elegantly than others.

Hat tip: Larwyn


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foley; hastert; larryodonnell; palmer
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1 posted on 10/08/2006 8:33:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

The left does not have principles - it has interests.


2 posted on 10/08/2006 8:40:24 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("The Democratic Party: Against buggering youths for almost a week now." --IMAO.us)
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To: Dark Skies
"Shall we propose legislation that criminalizes sexual activities between consenting adult homosexuals if they came into contact before one of them was 16 or 18 or what ever the local age of consent is?"

I have an idea. Let's have the Supreme Court revisit Lawrence v. Texas and maybe they'll reverse themselves. I'm sure the Democrats will agree this time since they have suddenly become homophobic.

3 posted on 10/08/2006 8:40:54 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Dark Skies

"There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual. But it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch up on. And then there’s breakfast for anything they forgot to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there’s all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more than any other co-workers in the Congress."

That should have been in quotations or in a block, as the original had. I read it over and over. In its current form the author of the article seems to be saying it.

That's a bad as the article posted the other day - In the middle of the argument, "Click for a free car." I gave that the non sequitur award. It seems the poster copied everything, including the linking ad, "Click for a free car."


4 posted on 10/08/2006 8:43:09 AM PDT by sine_nomine (Vote for the Democrats? - the party of Studds and Frank - the new family values party?)
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To: Dark Skies

"Lawrence O’Donnell coyly dropping itty-bitty hints in the Huffington Post that a certain key GOP figure might be a little light in the loafers"

On the other hand, no one needs a nudge from the PuffHo to recognize those same traits in Lawrence O'Donnell.


5 posted on 10/08/2006 8:44:14 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Slings and Arrows

And I do question Larry O'Donnell's sanity. He has proven that he is a raving lunatic that will do anything to discredit the GOP.


6 posted on 10/08/2006 8:44:24 AM PDT by Dark Skies (Allah sez "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.")
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To: Slings and Arrows

Hastert is so fat he hasn't seen his lil fren in ages and no one else can probably find it ether.


7 posted on 10/08/2006 8:45:10 AM PDT by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: Enterprise
While the liberals appear to be about harming their own constituency, which of course they are but in their twisted minds it is to suppress the "morals voters", they are hiding the real scandal.

Remember how somebody showed up in the specific location to with the exact required equipment to monitor a phone call of Representative Boehner, that was not miracle of happenstance.

Somebody has been data mining and who knows what else they have collected, and who else not even in the gay sphere they have intel on.

They are promoting this dirty sex talk to cover up something else cause appears to me there is a spy network still lurking.
8 posted on 10/08/2006 8:47:30 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Dark Skies
Mainstream members of the homosexual community

A contradiction in terms ...

9 posted on 10/08/2006 8:47:37 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: sine_nomine
That is my mistake. I thought I was careful to properly "block" all appropriate paragraphs, but I missed that one.

I will ask the admin mod if he can repair the damage.

10 posted on 10/08/2006 8:51:20 AM PDT by Dark Skies (Allah sez "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.")
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To: Just mythoughts

Very interesting theory. But who would have access to the equipment that's needed to data mine and select E-Mails from one person to another out of the billions that are sent each year?


11 posted on 10/08/2006 8:52:06 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Dark Skies

Sexual McCarthyism . . . catchy, I like it.


12 posted on 10/08/2006 8:54:56 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Bush Assassination Flick. Save your liberal friends a few bucks: the black guy in the tux dunnit.)
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To: Dark Skies
I am waiting for the Republicans who go on TV... (Adam Putnam vs. Rahm Emanuel, come on!)...

to come up with a unified line such as "How dare the people who collded and defended Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, Mel Reynolds, etc try to claim the moral high ground here!" Look at my tagline for more.

13 posted on 10/08/2006 8:56:33 AM PDT by GoBucks2002 (Sex offenders: Republicans Remove, Democrats Re-Elect)
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To: Enterprise
http://www.tnl.net/who/bibliography/aimsecurity/

This happened before 2004 but exactly when is not given.

Remember the Clinton hysteria about Y2k... billions were spent and how about that buried data mining 'able danger'. How many other agencies under the Clintons were mining data?

The questions are endless about cyber security and when we see what was the supposed evidence presented to Foley he fled.
14 posted on 10/08/2006 8:57:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Dark Skies; All

I'm waiting for the GAY BACKLASH against the dems!

And .. the reason I'm waiting .. the gay's have been deadly silent about all the horrible statements the dems have made about gays during the past week! If I were the dems, I'd be more worried about the depressing of the gay vote.

The dems say we bash gays .. but the dems have done more gay-bashing in the past week than the repubs ever thought about.


15 posted on 10/08/2006 8:58:28 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thx


16 posted on 10/08/2006 8:59:09 AM PDT by Dark Skies (Allah sez "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.")
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To: CyberAnt

Exactly! The moment I heard Bob Beckell on H&C associating homosexuals with pedophilia...and claiming someone should've been "watching" Foley, I knew it was time for the popcorn.


17 posted on 10/08/2006 9:17:10 AM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *sses.)
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To: Enterprise

Echelon.


18 posted on 10/08/2006 9:25:09 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Dark Skies
A new rule book is being written for behavior expected of homosexuals with consenting adult young males.

And it is nothing like the old rule book for behavior expected of heterosexuals with consenting members of the opposite sex.. Disturbing at the lest.

19 posted on 10/08/2006 9:25:15 AM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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To: Dark Skies

I didn't mean to be too critical, but it does make the reader wonder if the original author is one of those self-righteous advocates who point fingers at the GOP.


20 posted on 10/08/2006 9:25:35 AM PDT by sine_nomine (Vote for the Democrats? - the party of Studds and Frank - the new family values party?)
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