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Men being men is a bad deal Guys should evolve beyond masculinity(3 bag barfer)
San Francisco Cronicle ^ | Sunday, October 8, 2006 | Robert Jensen

Posted on 10/08/2006 6:53:31 AM PDT by US Navy guy

It's hard to be a man; hard to live up to the demands that come with the dominant conception of masculinity, of the tough guy.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 3bagbarfer; idiotsinmedia; liberalism; lightontheloafers; masculinity; men; metrosexual; moonbat; newageguy; pansypickers; robertjensen; selfhater; sensitive; wuss
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To: Brilliant

Sounds like the author stopped being a man a long time ago.


21 posted on 10/08/2006 7:06:31 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs
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To: US Navy guy
Straight men need to evolve beyond masculinity?

Gimme a break!

22 posted on 10/08/2006 7:06:48 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: US Navy guy
From the article:

Robert Jensen is a professor of journalism at the University of Texas.

'nuff said.

23 posted on 10/08/2006 7:07:07 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Fintan
First, a note about the rather complicated position from which I speak. I am a gay guy who has had a girlfriend. Or, maybe it’s more accurate to say that I’m a straight man who sometimes has been sexual with men, at one point closeted and later openly. Or maybe I’m bisexual. Or maybe I’m making it up as I go along. Because I have crossed lines often, maybe I have shaky standing to speak about gay male sexuality. Or because I cross lines, maybe my vantage point provides a valuable view. Readers can make their own decisions about how, or whether, to listen to me.

From an article he wrote.

24 posted on 10/08/2006 7:07:44 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: US Navy guy; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; big'ol_freeper
We need to get rid of the whole idea of masculinity. It's time to abandon the claim that there are certain psychological or social traits that inherently come with being biologically male. If we can get past that, we have a chance to create a better world for men and women.

And the lion and the lamb shall lay down together in harmony.

Why, we might be able to have Universal Health Care! Just think of the possibilities!

Brings a tear to my eye...

25 posted on 10/08/2006 7:08:17 AM PDT by sauropod ("Work as if you were to live 100 Years, Pray as if you were to die To-morrow." - Ben Franklin)
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To: US Navy guy
It's true that only women can bear children and breast-feed. That fact likely has some bearing on aspects of men's and women's personalities. But we don't know much about what the effect is, and given the limits of our tools to understand human behavior, it's possible we may never know much.

The author is a blithering idiot who displays the inevitable effects of the ongoing feminist "de-balling of the American Male" campaign. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the related campaign in Europe since the end of WWII has wreaked havoc on the masculinity of the European male population.

This garbage from a professor of journalism at UT? A fine example of what is wrong with our institutes of "higher learning", IMO.
26 posted on 10/08/2006 7:08:39 AM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: IronJack
> It's like Jeffrey Dahmer publishing a cookbook.

Or Ted Bundy publishing a book on dating etiquette.
27 posted on 10/08/2006 7:09:18 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen, SnowFlake, and Eeevil Doer.)
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To: US Navy guy
He needs to get out in the real world. Most people don't think too much of manlessness. IMO, this is just an excuse to avoid responsibilities.
28 posted on 10/08/2006 7:09:26 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: US Navy guy


29 posted on 10/08/2006 7:10:48 AM PDT by diverteach
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To: US Navy guy
"If masculinity is defined as conquest, it means that men will always struggle with each other for dominance."

Dear Butt-boy: It is called survival of the fittest. SO, since you ain't fit, you'll never survive to procreate (thankfully sparing us from another generation of panty-waist pandering).

We humans are derived from hundreds of thousands of generations of kill-or-be-killed dominators. Fact. Anything else is wishful thinking and or hallucination.

So get in touch with reality instead of your (allegedly) male member.
30 posted on 10/08/2006 7:11:00 AM PDT by roaddog727
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To: US Navy guy

Support Girly Men wusses! vote Democrat!

Republicans FIRE homosexuals (see Foley)


31 posted on 10/08/2006 7:13:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: US Navy guy
This liberal article is so insane, so completely unbelievable and idiotic beyond the limitations I would attribute to the left I can only suspect one thing behind it:

ROVE!


32 posted on 10/08/2006 7:13:10 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Brilliant

jettison my femininity?

Does this mean no more new shoes??

This man is an abomination! If he thinks I am giving up new shoes, hair color, gossiping, conniving and plain ole mean spiritedness, not to mention envy and manipulation,,,well he is a pervert


33 posted on 10/08/2006 7:14:30 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: saganite

My husband is the most wonderful human being I have ever met. And yes, he is very masculine. I don't want or need some girly man, that's why I have a real man.


34 posted on 10/08/2006 7:16:37 AM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: US Navy guy

Rush should read this aloud in the "New Castrati" voice.


35 posted on 10/08/2006 7:18:29 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Bernard

Heh heh. One of the guys on my team just seems really homosexual. He's a nice guy and a hard worker but has this sort of "hitler youth" quality if you get my drift. Just a little "too clean". Anyway, he wears a wedding ring and he talks about his wife and stuff so I figured my radar isn't perfect.

At least, I THOUGHT he talked about his wife.

Friday we were talking about his moving here and the housing collapse going on here in Seattle and asked how long he had been married and he said, "Oh I'm not married. I have a partner. He works here in the legal dept.

Go figure...


36 posted on 10/08/2006 7:18:58 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: US Navy guy
I contend that the males on the Left have been feminized.

They have no idea what it means to be a man. Their focus on life is trying to be a non-masculine person as outlined by the feminist agenda. This is why their answer to societal problems is to acquiesce and attempt to seduce others into their way of thinking; or throw childish fits.

It's also why they admire people like Fidel and Hugo. They mistake the thuggish behavior of Leftist dictators as being true masculinity.

37 posted on 10/08/2006 7:19:47 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: Bernard

On a side note, immediately when I realized, the first thing I thought was, I wonder if his butt ever hurts.


38 posted on 10/08/2006 7:19:57 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: US Navy guy

"Of course, if we are going to jettison masculinity, we have to scrap femininity along with it."

There are plenty of gals who don't care about femininity, but I'm not into liberal hippys.


39 posted on 10/08/2006 7:20:36 AM PDT by samson1097
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To: raybbr
Because I have crossed lines often, maybe I have shaky standing to speak about gay male sexuality.

You CERTAINLY have "shaky standing" to speak about HETEROSEXUAL male sexuality!

Or because I cross lines, maybe my vantage point provides a valuable view.

Yes, as valuable as Sam Berkowitz's insights into canine discipline.

Readers can make their own decisions about how, or whether, to listen to me.

Huh? Were you saying something?

40 posted on 10/08/2006 7:20:55 AM PDT by IronJack
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