Posted on 10/07/2006 1:35:46 PM PDT by rface
On Tuesday night's "Evening News," Gloria Borger said this:
"One senior House Republican tells CBS that there's a lot of anger at what he describes as 'a network of gay staffers and gay members who protect each other and did the speaker a disservice.'"
The New Republic's Michael Crowley picks up on Borger's comment. He argues that "it's becoming clear that some people on Capitol Hill are promoting a storyline that involves gay Republican staffers--apparently led by [Tom Reynolds's chief of staff Kirk] Fordham--covering up for Mark Foley." Crowley suggests "maybe this is how Dennis Hastert and his compatriots are explaining themselves to the base."
He also notes David Corn's report on "The List" a document being passed around political circles of high-level Republican congressional aides who are gay.
Corn, a liberal, says he will not publish The List, even though he has a copy. Here's his conclusion:
Let's be clear about one thing: the Mark Foley scandal is not about homosexuality. Some family value conservatives are suggesting it is. But anytime a gay Republican is outed by events, a dicey issue is raised: what about those GOPers who are gay and who serve a party that is anti-gay? Are they hypocrites, opportunists, or just confused individuals? Is it possible to support a party because you adhere to most of its tenets--even if that party refuses to recognize you as a full citizen? The men on The List might want to think hard about these questions--as they probably already have--for if I have a copy of The List, there's a good chance it will be appearing soon on a website near everyone......
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The List: (found on the left of the link, part way down...)
THE LIST
Operating since July of 2004, telling you the truth about hypocrisy in the gov't.
US Representatives
Rep. Ed Schrock (VA)
Rep. David Drier (CA)
Rep. James McCrery (LA)
Rep. Mark Foley (FL)
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US Senators.
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Sen Barbara Mikulski (MD)
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Senior GOP Staff
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Jay Timmons, NRSC
Dan Gurley, RNC
Jay Banning, RNC
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Senior Senate Staffers
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Robert Traynham, Santorum
Jonathan Tolman, Inhofe
Kirk Fordham, Martinez
Dirk Smith, Lott
John Reid, Allen
Paul Unger, Allen
Linus Catignani, Frist
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Senior House Staffers
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Jim Conzelman, Oxley
Lee Cohen, Hart
Robert O'Conner, King
Pete Meachum, Brown-Waite
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Bush Staff
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Israel Hernandez
Jeff Berkowitz
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Local Officials
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Vincent Gentile, NYC
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The rest...
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Ed Koch, NYC Mayor
Jennifer Helms-Knox, Judge
Armstrong Williams, Radio host
Matt Drudge, Headline writer
Steve Kreseski, MD Gov.
Chip DiPaula, MD Gov.
Lee LaHaye, CWA
John Schlafley, Eagle Forum
Get out of here...... (pushing like Elaine Bennet)
(persona; Elaine Bennett Seinfeld Show.)
I don't agree with that. I want to know their stands on issues - for example, do they support gay marriage? Do they want to penalize the Boy Scouts for banning gay scout leaders? Do they support NAMBLA? etc.
Marital status or sexual orientation don't give a clue.
A few years ago, the Dems were after GOPers who had extra-marital affairs - Gingrich, Hyde, Dole, etc. Now it's gay GOPers. If everyone who isn't the perfect example of a "Father Knows Best" family can't be a GOPer, the party would have about 10 members.
Why? If they support the GOP platform, what difference does it make?
I completely agree with that. In fact, it is one of the things that fundamentally disgusts me about the lefttheir belief that they are entitled to control the intimate lives and behavior of other people. This is but one example.
I have some liberal friends who would be more horrified if their child turned out to be conservative than if the child turned out to be gay. Strangely, life for the child, by their own admission, would be easier in one case than the other. But that doesn't seem to matter.
later.
One can be sure that if they are gay, they are working from within the "anti-gay" (agenda) Party to defeat measures against gay adoiption and gay marriage. There is a word for people like this and it isn't hypocrite.
Unfortunately for the Republicans, it was pushing the "Father Knows Best" image that has created this problem, imho
Refuse to get to leftist plantation, leftist feel you're in dire need of a whuppin.
The premise of the Left and Democrats is that the GOP is "anti-gay," and therefore presents a conflict for a person who's gay AND Republican ... that's the wrong premise.
Most Republicans oppose the "gay agenda;" most don't like the behavior. But I would assume most Republicans are not uncomfortable with friends/family/associates who are gay so long as they don't shove their sexual preferences, activities, etc. in their faces. I don't want to hear what anyone does in his/her bedroom. period.
Nor would an active Republican who is gay necessarily have the "gay agenda" at the top of his/her list of priorities. as seems to be the assumption of the Left. Maybe, just maybe, gay Republcans care more about national security, taxes, and the economy over and above their own sexual preference.
I just can't see being gay and being Republican as mutually exclusive.
Never use fallible human beings as your role model, ElPatriota, because they will ALWAYS disappoint you. Every single one. Jesus is the ONLY perfect human being. He is the only example you can place your confidence in.
I finally read to the end of the thread, so I understand where you stand on this issue.
No need to respond.
Enjoy your dinner!
I will still be voting on 11/7 for every Republican candidate on the ballot.
"I have a gay neighbor who confided in me that he is a closet Republican. I am not joking."
You mean a Republican who is a closet homo?
"Screw that "The List" and I am not going to run away from it"
it would have been better, imo, not to have posted it. Now it's out in the open and could be damaging to our party.
I already see one I last voted for and ain't gonna vote for him again. Hopefully there is enough time to replace him with a solid, straight paleoconservative, not another neocon in the dresses of a conservative.
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