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The Foley set-up starts to break open
The American Thinker ^ | 10 05 06 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 10/05/2006 4:35:34 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

The Foley set-up starts to break open

Drudge has a world exclusive, as most readers already know.

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal… Developing…

They have to get up a lot earlier in the morning to pull this sort of thing off these days. The MSM may be dumb but we aren’t.

Present state of play—the Dems and CREW are implicated; ABC’s Brian Ross has his own Rathergate, the FBI and Ethics Committee are going to find out which Dems were involved and CREW will probably lose their tax exempt status. The Dems have shown themselves to be perfectly willing to use homophobia to win when they have no saleable platform or issues; the Republican base is charged up and once again Soros turned his gold into Dem dross.

Foley will become a living example of the Dems’ willingness to smear a homosexual for gain and will write a book, go on Oprah and make a mint. He will be this year’s wronged victim. Mark my words A fit ending to a sordid smear.

See also What is CREW? Clarice Feldman   10 05 06

Update:

Blogger Betsy Newmark predicted that the IM’s would be found to be a a prank with teenagers leading Foley on.

When I did the GOPUSA podcast on Tuesday evening with Lorie Byrd, John Hawkins, and Ed Morrissey, I ventured a guess about the circumstances of the dirty IM conversations that Mark Foley had participated in. I said that, based on my experience teaching teenagers, that the dialogue really seemed to be to sound like a kid sitting around with his buddies having a good ol’ giggle about leading on the perverted Congressman. I’d been talking with a couple of other teachers about this whole scandal and we’d all agreed that that was what it sounded like to us. The kid was definitely leading Foley on. It just had the ring of a kid playing a prank that he could share with other kids and laugh at. Thanks to John Hawkins for transcribing my comment.

“Foley is a complete sleaze, he has got a real problem, but let me say, this kid is not an innocent kid. You read those things, he’s leading him on. He’s like a little Lolita. And what I picture, I picture this kid, he’s in his dorm room, or wherever he is, and he has got 3 or 4 friends on and they’re just giggling themselves silly. “Look what I got this Congressman to say.” That’s why he saved these IM messages, so he could send it around to all his friends and they could laugh at this poor, middle-aged Congressman who is so pitiful and has got some real sick problems. It just seems to be the type of thing that teenaged boys would have thought was so funny. This isn’t some kid who is innocently appalled at what he’s getting. He’s leading that guy on.”

 


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KEYWORDS: crew; foley; hastert
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To: montag813

Yes, but we own the new media and we can start making our own "commercials" and posting them on YouTube and emailing them around the web---one dirty trick fizzle after another.


41 posted on 10/05/2006 7:13:56 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Chickensoup

I went to the link you posted and couldn't find the stuff on the investigation of Istook. Could you elaborate?

And, yess, Jordan Edmund is the page. What is Selena's last name?


42 posted on 10/05/2006 7:16:36 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

I just found that passionateamerican.com is ahead of me. There is a lot out there and they have pulled it together at the website.


43 posted on 10/05/2006 7:18:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: Chickensoup

Thanks.


44 posted on 10/05/2006 7:24:04 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: jwalsh07

I thought there was a "z" in it.


45 posted on 10/05/2006 10:12:40 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Suzy Quzy

I heard no, but who knows?


46 posted on 10/05/2006 10:13:31 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: montag813

As long as they ride this shaggy pony, they're not talking issues. The GOP has to get back on track.


47 posted on 10/05/2006 10:15:06 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Anti-Bubba182; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714612/posts


emails were apparently ALTERED!!!


48 posted on 10/05/2006 10:16:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Look at the date on that. I believe the early editions were transcripts.


49 posted on 10/05/2006 10:19:46 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Chickensoup

What did your post mean?


50 posted on 10/06/2006 6:24:08 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

This is the inoformation to the site. If you want more information about the lies lies lies check passionateamerica.com. They have it pulled together.


51 posted on 10/06/2006 6:33:54 AM PDT by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: GoLightly

these are computer records they should not be "altered" just printed.

IM records ARE transcripts.


52 posted on 10/06/2006 7:13:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Suzy Quzy
It's now starting to look like not a prank but a money making book deal for young Jordon Edmund.

Apparently the “prank‚” may lead to more revelations such as a “book deal” that some of pages were hoping to get, a kind of “Capital Hill 90210. What would “sauce” the offer up more than to have a “learing pervert congressman” in the script?

Macsmind

Macsmind provides an message board conversation from 2004 between Edmund and other pages talking about the book deal.

Just One Minute

Hello all,
Yes, the book is still in progress. Outline is complete. Four of the fifteen chapters are in rough draft form (the chapters with input from previous Pages has not been completed - this part will take the longest since I have to spend so much time interviewing people and I've left this part until the end, although I have received some input from a very few people.) I have an agent (my husband is a published author), but no publisher yet. I am also working with a company that let's you self publish, sort of Print on Demand. And yes, you do get assigned an ISBN and it will be available at all the major book sellers. So I will do that if my agent can not get a publisher interested. Pictures have not been chosen, many more edits to go through. It's a long process. I've had to squeeze it in with my other responsibilities, so it's taking longer than I thought. But it IS going to happen, at some point in time.
Thanks, Robin Katsaros


Just who is Robin Katsaros?

Seems she is an uber liber who likes to communicate with Randi Rhodes. She just happens to have had a son in the page program in 2003 - sponsored by Nancy Pelosi

CHRISTOPHER KATSAROS is a sophomore at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. He grew up in Los Altos Hills, CA--just outside of San Francisco. ***Christopher served his junior year of High School working as a Congressional Page by appointment of Nancy Pelosi, currently the Democratic House Leader***.

From Chris's myspace page:

I cheer for France and sometimes think of myself as European rather than American

Same link posted above:
53 posted on 10/06/2006 7:14:43 AM PDT by Republican Red ("There’s God, then there’s the president and then there's my father.”- 6 yr old Jack Roberts)
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To: Deltaforceeoo7
If they do away with the pages, who will do the goffer work??? I always watch them sitting around, then jumping up and running in and out of the room fetching things for the congressmen... They gonna have to do their own running now???

Maybe they could just think ahead and remember to bring what they'll need. They have huge staffs in case of an emergency or late-breaking development.

There may have been a real justification for pages in pre-computer -- and especially pre-telephone -- days, but today it really does just seem to be a sinecure for the offspring of well-connected and ambitious parents.

54 posted on 10/06/2006 7:22:13 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Chickensoup; Grampa Dave; backhoe; Suzy Quzy; Mo1; Howlin; Marine; UNCLE; bd476; onyx
So this is the Guy that dug out the identity of one of the pages, complete with a picture,,...JUST VERY GOOD WORK:

Istook calls Wild Bill, "Irresponsible Internet Blogger"

Istook seems to be one of the PC Moderate Republicans.....

See this from the Blog:

**********************AN EXCERPT **********************

I almost interrupted Istook's bullcrap but I decided that I should just let him destroy any chance he had of getting elected. I will not vote for Istook (call me Brad Henry we need to talk.) I am a Republican and he is a Republican but I'll be damned if I ever vote for a candidate that can't speak like a real human being and says ignorant things like this:

I know the prevailing standard in journalism is not to disclose the identity or personal details about minors and victims of sexual crimes. Just because one irresponsible Internet blogger chose not to follow this standard doesn't make it right for others to disregard it."
Well I already proved Jordan Edmund is not a minor and serious questions are being asked about whether he was a victim or if this was a planned plot prank. So try again Ernest. And you call me irresponsible. I was being RESPONSIBLE by exposing truth and uncovering ABC NEWS as liars once again. From AP:
But in one exchange the network inadvertently left the victim's screen name on. It was quickly discovered and removed, replaced by a version with the name redacted.

However, ABC said Thursday that a blogger was able to retrieve the deleted file. The blogger, known as "Wild Bill' from the "Passionate America" site, went on a computer detective mission he describes in detail on his site to discover the name.
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Let me explain the ABC NEWS lie:Yes I just called whoever made the statement for ABC NEWS a liar. If they decide to file legal action against me just to let them know I have documented proof and several witnesses that can back up my accusations.

This is why people distrust politicians and media more and more each day. When I talked to Bryan Dean staff writer for The Oklahoman I told him, "We just want you to tell us the truth, please tell us the truth." I was not suggesting Bryan Dean was lying to me I was talking about the media as a whole.

I am a news junkie and I see so much news that is spun to fit the story the media wants to tell this week and outright lies. The dishonesty masquerading as truth in some of the media will make you sick.

I am so disappointed with ABC NEWS today. I used to watch ABC NEWS each night but no longer. I will give CBS a try, because they told my story and they told the truth. Now I will keep an eye on them and let them know when the news is right and when the news is wrong.

You can help to, if you see news that is wrong investigate the truth and expose the frauds. But if they get it right let them know. Charles Bassett and Bryan Dean you did a great job.
55 posted on 10/06/2006 8:23:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

"The thing that gets me is that the worst messages are IMs. Anyone can use a text editor and "sex" them up as they please.

Unless they were saved in a system somewhere, and I doubt that, purported IMs cannnot be trusted. The people putting them forth are not under oath and why didn't they raise hell at the first instance."

This whole mess is starting sound like sound like Blather and Mapes were behind this bs.

Of course the reality may be that this group of homosexual missfits were behind what blew up Rather and Mapes.


56 posted on 10/06/2006 8:30:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Suzy Quzy
OMG!! Spelling police...thanks for the pullover.

ROFL! Thank goodness you manage to get away with just a warning!

57 posted on 10/06/2006 8:36:11 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: jammer
"To what depths have we descended?"

I find it frightening.

Carolyn

58 posted on 10/06/2006 9:12:34 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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