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1 posted on 10/05/2006 8:10:28 AM PDT by george76
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Should schools allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons?

Yes

No

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/education/10007586/detail.html?rss=den&psp=nationalnews


2 posted on 10/05/2006 8:11:39 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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It is good to finally see this being proposed. I have a gut feeling however that if it did pass it would end up like the armed pilot program.


3 posted on 10/05/2006 8:14:25 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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I was on another site and made the same suggestion yesterday. One lib thought it was a horrible idea (surprise!).

I think this is well worth investigating. Wasn't there a school shooting a couple years back and someone went to his car, got his gun, and the shooter surrendered rather than being shot himself?


6 posted on 10/05/2006 8:16:17 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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If the Fed's did their job our minutemen would not have to be on the border and we could them in our schools.

Parents should protect their children - if we had more parents in the schools on a daily basis, maybe our children would learn something.


7 posted on 10/05/2006 8:18:10 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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FReepers constantly complain about teachers being liberal hacks that can't teach their kids basic skills...yet now we want these same teachers to pack heat?

As an aside, my wife is a teacher and after meeting many of her peers, I would not feel comfortable at all with them carrying weapons. Many are panzies. Moreover, the schools around here all have a police officer assigned to them.

9 posted on 10/05/2006 8:19:36 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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All of this is so lame. If parents did their jobs as parents, this would be a non-issue. Rewind 50 years people.


12 posted on 10/05/2006 8:22:01 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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CNN has one on their front page (Quick Poll), that is being DUmmied as well.


15 posted on 10/05/2006 8:24:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Well, my days of not taking your seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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Yes 45%
No 55%


16 posted on 10/05/2006 8:25:17 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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If all of my teachers carried guns when I was in school, I might not have lived to talk about it.


19 posted on 10/05/2006 8:27:59 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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It would certianly solve the problem with outsiders coming into the school to do violence however I'd be afraid of the urge by many of us teachers to turn it on some of our students.


20 posted on 10/05/2006 8:34:33 AM PDT by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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One of the worst ideas I've ever heard -- muddies the waters when the inner city kids claim that they need guns in the classroom just as much for self defense. And the first time a teacher shoots back; can you imagine the legal wrangling on that one?


21 posted on 10/05/2006 8:36:42 AM PDT by sbMKE
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It's about time. This "Gun Free Zone" crap is what draws violent offenders like honey draws bears.


23 posted on 10/05/2006 8:38:02 AM PDT by pabianice
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Thanks to george 76 for da ping! (considering some of the teachers I had while growing up I am ambivalent about this one)

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24 posted on 10/05/2006 8:38:29 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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I wonder how the National Education Association feels about this.

I have two pages of resolutions from their convention this year that touch everything but that idea.


30 posted on 10/05/2006 8:45:54 AM PDT by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high...... I get high.....I get high.....McCain.")
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Too many students would be shot.

I had a chemistry teacher was a good at teaching but was into black helicopters. Didn't take well to teenagers smart remarks in class about it either.


35 posted on 10/05/2006 8:54:32 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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ping


38 posted on 10/05/2006 9:00:16 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Should schools allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons?
Choice Votes Percentage of 2344 Votes
Yes 1059 45%
No 1285 55%

40 posted on 10/05/2006 9:05:59 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ .05ยข a can.)
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legislation that would allow teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons.

It seems quite a few FReeprs thinks this means all teachers must be armed.

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If a teacher has obtained, on their own, a CCW permit, there is no reason they should not be allowed to do so in class.

When I was in high school, the parking lot was filled with pickup trucks with guns in in the racks, and I doubt seriously any of them were 'registered'.

Funny....I don't remember a single case of a school shooting back then.

41 posted on 10/05/2006 9:07:00 AM PDT by MamaTexan (~If we won't trust a teacher with a gun, why are we trusting them with our children?~)
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I've now read almost all the posts in this thread (except for those which will be posted while I'm writing, lol) and if the same amount of misinformation and confusion not to mention conflicted emotions are present in that state legislature as I've seen here...that bill is DOA.

I'm a veteran teacher in an inner city school. We used to be a lot more violent than we are now. A couple of years ago, based on a student population of about 1800 we had over seven THOUSAND outdoor suspensions in a single school year and it was probably the same 100 kids. Besides a couple of the sergeants over in JROTC...I'm the only person in this school qualified enough to be armed. The kids know it too. So if an announcement were made that certain unnamed staff members were armed in case of emergency that would be a no brainer for this student body.

Most teachers are liberal democrats. Even the Republican's tend to be moderates or only fiscal types. Most are antigun as well. It's not a good situation and this is true across the nation. Texas, too. lol

The only answer is to recruit future teachers from the ranks of combat experienced returning veterans. Recruiting teachers from the folks who are combat experienced SEALs, Rangers, or Marines is an ideal scenario. They know what to do. They know how to do the job and they've done it before and likely in an urbanized environment. They understand picking a specific target and they know fire discipline. They won't dawldle around outside a school waiting to see what the entire situation seems to be (Columbine). They will move to contact and ummmm solve the problem.

42 posted on 10/05/2006 9:09:17 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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It should be mandatory, not just allowed.


44 posted on 10/05/2006 9:19:49 AM PDT by 6ppc (Call Photo Reuters, that's the name, and away goes truth right down the drain. Photo Reuters!)
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