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McHenry seeks sworn Dem account [Wants Pelosi, Emmanuel under oath re: Foley]
The Hill ^ | October 5, 2006 | Josephine Hearn

Posted on 10/04/2006 7:11:56 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide

North Carolina Republican Rep. Patrick McHenry called on Democratic leaders yesterday to testify under oath about when they knew of former Rep. Mark Foley’s (R-Fla.) Internet communications with a House page.

Writing to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) Chairman Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), McHenry questioned whether Democrats had a role in publicizing the e-mails, which broke in the middle of the fall election season creating a furor rarely seen in congressional politics.

“Is the American public to believe that neither of you nor your staffs nor anyone associated with your staffs had prior knowledge or involvement with the release of Foley’s e-mails and/or explicit instant messages? Is the American public to believe that ABC News stumbled haphazardly on this story without Democratic assistance?” wrote McHenry, a freshman Republican who has emerged as an attack dog for the GOP.

He asked that Pelosi and Emanuel offer a “yes or no” answer as to whether they would go under oath “to assure the American people that neither you nor your staffs had prior knowledge or involvement — at the strategic or tactical levels — with the release of Foley’s e-mails and/or instant messages.”

Spokespeople for Pelosi and the DCCC dismissed McHenry’s demand as political posturing.

“Republicans just don’t get it; every mother in America is asking how Republican’s could choose partisan politics over protecting kids, and the Republicans are asking who could have blown their cover-up,” said Pelosi spokeswoman Jennifer Crider. “If we had seen Mark Foley’s horrific e-mails or instant messages, we would have immediately acted to protect these kids.”

DCCC spokeswoman Sarah Feinberg said, “Of course we did not have the e-mails or instant messages. Give me a break. If you recall, they also blamed us for indicting [former Majority Leader Tom DeLay [R-Texas]. Speaker Hastert and his staff have known about Foley’s inappropriate behavior for years and their attempt to deflect their responsibility is absurd.”

A handful of House Republicans have admitted that they knew about the original Foley e-mails in late 2005. In those e-mails, Foley asked a male House page for a picture of himself but was not overtly sexual. No member of Congress or congressional staff member has admitted to knowing about the more explicit series of instant messages that surfaced Friday and led to Foley’s resignation.

Pelosi dismissed speculation that Democratic leadership knew about the e-mails prior to Thursday, when ABC News broke the story in the media.

“It’s absolutely not true,” she said. The e-mails appeared on a blog, stopsexpredators.blogspot.com, earlier in September.

Democrats have called for a full investigation of “when the Republican leadership was notified” of the e-mails and what action they took, suggesting Republican leaders had covered up the e-mails to avoid political repercussions in a tough election cycle.

As the scandal ballooned this week, several House Republicans sought to gain control of the media frenzy by questioning whether Democrats themselves knew about the emails and had sought to use them to political advantage by waiting until just before the elections to give them to the news media.

Although political observers agree that the timing of the story could not have been better, ABC News reporter Brian Ross told The New York Times on Tuesday that his source was a Republican.

“I hate to give up sources, but to the extent that I know the political parties of any of the people who helped us, it would be the same party,” Ross said.

ABC News investigative producer Maddy Sauer worked on the story with Ross.

“They were passed to a colleague of mine from a source, not someone from a Democratic campaign, a source on the Hill,” Sauer told Democracy Now Tuesday.

At least two other news organizations, The Miami Herald and The St. Petersburg Times, knew of the email exchange but opted not to publish it.

Still, Republican operatives point out that an ethics watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) had a copy of the emails as early as July 21 and passed them on to the FBI. They note that several of CREW’s staff members previously worked on Capitol Hill for Democrats.

But a spokeswoman for CREW, Naomi Seligman Steiner, told The Hill Tuesday that the group did not pass the emails to any other entity and was not the source of the ABC News story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foley
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To: SolidSupplySide
if a middle aged man sent those kinds of messages to my son, I would turn them over to the cops. I would not find such behavior innocuous.

You appear to have a radar for things that not all of us do. I have children and I would not have jumped to the conclusion that it was a matter for the police. In fact, if my child was uncomfortable getting emails from the congressman (former now, thank goodness), I would have responded to the next email myself and I can assure you, that would have been the end of any further attempt at correspondence.

21 posted on 10/04/2006 7:31:32 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: SolidSupplySide

Being under oath does not stop a Democrat from lying.And they[the Democrats] know that they have the same chance of being prosecuted for perjury as the sun has to rise in the west so long as the Republicans are in power.


22 posted on 10/04/2006 7:32:33 PM PDT by sport
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To: AmeriBrit

SolidSupplySide is a troll. Pay no attention to him.


23 posted on 10/04/2006 7:32:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: blake6900

In totality. Asking my kid what he wants for his birthday. What he likes to do. Talking about the physique of another male. All of those things sound like what we've been told predators do. And on top of that, if my son told me he knew the the guy and he was "sick sick sick" as the page did, there's no question that I'd go to the cops.

What would you do? Go to the cops like me, or do nothing like Speaker Hastert?


24 posted on 10/04/2006 7:33:32 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide (Hastert will not be Speaker by January 2007 (and should not))
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To: SolidSupplySide
Weyrich has jumped off his high horse, apparently you like the lack of oxygen up there still.

“Is the American public to believe that neither of you nor your staffs nor anyone associated with your staffs had prior knowledge or involvement with the release of Foley’s e-mails and/or explicit instant messages? Is the American public to believe that ABC News stumbled haphazardly on this story without Democratic assistance?” wrote McHenry, a freshman Republican who has emerged as an attack dog for the GOP. He asked that Pelosi and Emanuel offer a “yes or no” answer as to whether they would go under oath “to assure the American people that neither you nor your staffs had prior knowledge or involvement — at the strategic or tactical levels — with the release of Foley’s e-mails and/or instant messages.”

WTG McHenry! I want to see more Republicans nailing these people for what they did tomorrow morning. Got that GOP staffers? I know you are reading the board. Follow McHenry's example.

25 posted on 10/04/2006 7:33:47 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: SolidSupplySide
I've read the emails. I find it shocking that you find them "innoculous" [sic]. As a parent, I can tell you that if a middle aged man sent those kinds of messages to my son, I would turn them over to the cops. I would not find such behavior innocuous.

They were turned over to the FBI, who then said there wasn't a case.

26 posted on 10/04/2006 7:34:03 PM PDT by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: SolidSupplySide

Seems like you are repeating the Dem's spin.

Here is what we now know:

The FBI & the newspapers who saw the emails thought they were 'over friendly' but not 'criminal'.

The parents didn't want the story to be made public. The Republican leadership followed their request.

Hastert learned pf the salacious IMs only last week and Foley was immediately asked to resign.

And just tonight, due to a computer glich, we have learned the name of the source of the IMs and that he was over 18 during the exchanges.


27 posted on 10/04/2006 7:36:05 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Go Katherine "ALL your base are belong to us." Go here: http://www.ElectHarris.org)
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To: SolidSupplySide

Pelosi can say whatever she wants... put her under oath!!


28 posted on 10/04/2006 7:36:23 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: SolidSupplySide
Good grief. Do you want to give up every GOP gain because of a Democrat/MSM overplayed so called scandal?

The guy was a slime. He resigned. The leadership not only didn't defend him, they were repulsed. Can you name a Democrat in similar circumstances that did anything but prevaricate, stall, and presume outrage?

And for this you want Democrat reign?

Check out your tagline cause you'll not see supply side again if your outrage gets the Dems in.

29 posted on 10/04/2006 7:36:38 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: SolidSupplySide

I agree - this is a non-partisan issue and should stay as such. Foley ws clearly disturbed and is very ill. He is not a Republican or a Democrat, but a sick predator.


30 posted on 10/04/2006 7:38:14 PM PDT by graf008
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To: Keeper of the Turf
They were turned over to the FBI, who then said there wasn't a case.

That may or may not be true. CBS is reporting that the FBI backed off when the leadership said they'd take care of it.

Anyway, that's not important. Hastert would not have conducted a criminal investigation. His standard of proof would not have been "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt". Furthermore, Hastert wouldn't even have to find a crime -- only that Foley violated House rules.

And what the FBI did or didn't do has no bearing on whether or not Hastert did the right thing.

31 posted on 10/04/2006 7:39:16 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide (Hastert will not be Speaker by January 2007 (and should not))
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To: SolidSupplySide

And how about checking out the newest info on the steamy instant messages....that they were between Foley and a consenting 18 year old ADULT.


32 posted on 10/04/2006 7:39:16 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: SolidSupplySide

There was no lack of action, they took it as far as they could without be accused of attacking a gay Congressman without sufficient evidence. That's why it is so important to know who knew about the more explicit IMs before this past week. It looks like Nancy Pelosi is suspect.


33 posted on 10/04/2006 7:40:51 PM PDT by Eva
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To: SolidSupplySide
" As a parent, I can tell you that if a middle aged man sent those kinds of messages to my son, I would turn them over to the cops."

Unfortunately in this case, the kid's parents asked the Republicans NOT to release them or pursue it publicly. They asked that the emails stop and as far as we all know...they did stop.

34 posted on 10/04/2006 7:41:20 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Not all of them. As the news broke on Friday, those ones were not between Foley and an 18 year old consenting, but a page who ws 'weirded out' by them. On that day, Foley said it was all a smear tactic by his opponent in the House race.

Of course, they weren't as steamy as the later ones...but still creepy.


35 posted on 10/04/2006 7:42:23 PM PDT by graf008
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To: AmeriBrit

No, no, they found out about the IMs when the story broke, they knew about the creepy emails.


36 posted on 10/04/2006 7:42:51 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

If the Dems knew about it and never said anythng, they should be faulted. If anyone knew about it and never did anything, they should be faulted.


37 posted on 10/04/2006 7:43:30 PM PDT by graf008
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To: Lakeshark
The guy was a slime. He resigned. The leadership not only didn't defend him, they were repulsed.

The poster doesn't care.

He believes that all Republicans should be as pure as the driven snow.

The clown was spewing the same horse excrement on the DeLay threads.

38 posted on 10/04/2006 7:43:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They demand a sworn account from Democrats on this issue, but did not demand sworn account from Jamie Gorelick?

Give me a break.


39 posted on 10/04/2006 7:46:10 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: SolidSupplySide
In totality. Asking my kid what he wants for his birthday. What he likes to do. Talking about the physique of another male. All of those things sound like what we've been told predators do. And on top of that, if my son told me he knew the the guy and he was "sick sick sick" as the page did, there's no question that I'd go to the cops.

In totality, huh? Yeah, well good except I asked, "Which ones?" That meant the actual emails. What were the specific verbatim emails that elicited the reaction from you that Hastert had failed to respond. You've given me brief descriptions no different than those used by the MSM.

And, as I said before, the FBI saw these emails. They're law enforcement and they saw nothing untoward. So the emails were taken to the "cops" and the "cops" say nothing wrong with them.

Now either you've read them or you haven't. I think you haven't so go do the search for them, produce the ones that are responsible for your anger and then, when we both know what we're talking about, we can have an honest debate as to whether Hastert did or didn't react appropriately cuz, frankly pal, right now you look like a fool.

40 posted on 10/04/2006 7:46:58 PM PDT by blake6900 (YOUR AD HERE)
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