Posted on 10/04/2006 12:21:41 PM PDT by GOPFlack
July 20, 1983, roll call vote 259, House of Representatives, Motion to Censure Congressman Gerry Studds (D-MA) -
Following future Dem House Committee Chairs voting "no" -
Conyers, Frank, Lantos, Miller, Obey, Rahall, and Waxman.
Leadership voting "no"
Hoyer
Chair of DSCC, then House member, Schumer "no"
Voted instead for a watered down reprimand.
They voted against increasing the punishment from a reprimand to a censure (a reprimand does not even require the "bad guy" to be present for the reprimand, while a censure requires them to be in 'the well' and rebuked and humiliated)
When it came down to it, the 3 in my post voted against the censure altogether.
So the original post is voting against censure as a more severe punishment, mine was voting against the censure they agreed to pursue as a punishment.
I think that's right.
Excellent find. Send to our talk radio guys, it is great and useful information.
No, he said Schumer and others voted against Censure. The rest of the House voted to censure Stubbs and it passed. but Schumer and some other DEM sleaze voted against it.
vote 259 - Gingrich motion for censure as opposed to committee resolution for reprimand. Passed, with 87 nays which included those listed above.
Somehow I think "they voted for censure but would have preferred a reprimand" isn't quite the damning indictment GOPFlack was trying for.
They voted to kill the censure resolution, which was the key vote. The underlying bill was a reprimand reported by the Ethics Committee. It was amended with censure by Gingrich on a contested vote. Everyone then rolled over on final passage after Gingrich won that key vote.
Now maybe you can make some hay out of the fact that they preferred a reprimand to censure, but I doubt it.
I have no idea how that is disinformation. They flat voted against it. Bills pass almost all the time with near unanimity on final passage but the key votes are in the amendment.
For example, in the defense bill, if someone votes to cancel missile defense, but loses the vote, and then votes for final passage on the overall bill that has missile defense in it, does that mean they supported missile defense? Hardly.
Ed, maybe you are right. I think many Conservative bloggers and posters are just so frustrated with the lack of fighting back by the GOP right now. If you cannot nail a easy target like San Francisco Socialist Pelosi, who can you target?
I know. That blindness is one of the least attractive traits among you 'bots.
You've got that right. But it's also more than that. It's the lack of foresight too. What school child hasn't heard that where there's smoke there's fire? But I guess that aphorism is unknown to the Congressional R leadership.
what prompted that comment to me? No one care about what? and get over what?
Democrats feel no shame because they have no conscience. Moral values aren't very important to them, I guess. What hypocrites.
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