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What if Foley were a Democrat?
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Posted on 10/04/2006 9:51:32 AM PDT by truthfinder9

The Democrats finally have their issue. Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., resigned his seat in the House of Representatives Friday after news leaked that he had sexually harassed an underage male congressional page. Foley repeatedly e-mailed and instant messaged the page, revoltingly asking him to undress, to measure his genitals with a ruler, to list details regarding frequency and method of masturbation, and to tell Foley when he was aroused. "[I'd] love to slip [your shorts] off you … and [grab] the one-eyed snake," Foley messaged the teen.

Why repeat these perverse details? To demonstrate that House Republicans were not simply negligent in failing to investigate allegations regarding Foley's pedophilia – they were downright malfeasant. When a 16-year-old page informed top House Republicans that Foley had e-mailed him and asked for a picture, the Republicans did nothing. When Republican officials confronted Foley over the e-mails, Foley explained that they were innocent mentoring – and Republicans did nothing.

Trusting Foley at his word was inexcusable. If Foley had contacted a female page asking for her picture, there is no doubt he would have been grilled. House Republicans should have known better than to trust Foley here. Foley has been accused of closet homosexuality since his entry into politics; studies show that homosexuals are disproportionately prone to pedophilia. The fact that Foley had contacted a male page for his photograph should have set warning bells ringing across Capitol Hill.

But Republicans did nothing. Perhaps it was out of a sincere hope that Foley was not a closet homosexual; perhaps it was out of a disreputable hope that Foley's sickening behavior would go unnoticed until after the 2006 midterm elections. In either case, this information should have been investigated months ago – and Foley should already be sitting in a jail cell.

Democrats are surely correct to bludgeon House Republicans with the Foley scandal. Nonetheless, their outrage seems somewhat incongruous when we take into account their moral belief system. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., who labeled House Republicans' behavior here "abhorrent," is a vocal opponent of parental consent laws with regard to abortions for underage girls. This is the same Democratic Party that repeatedly endorsed homosexual page-molester Rep. Gerry Studds, D-Mass., even after his affair with a 17-year-old male page had been revealed. This is the same party that consistently defended Bill Clinton, calling his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky a private matter.

Democrats cannot condemn Foley for his proclivity for 16-year-old boys; they are the party that supports both homosexuality and reduced age of consent. Democrats cannot condemn Foley for his exploitation of Capitol Hill employees; they are the party that calls such exploitative imbalance-of-power situations "matters of personal choice."

On what moral basis do Democrats condemn Foley? They have no basis for moral outrage, since they have championed the destruction of traditional morality for decades. Instead, they condemn Foley and the Republicans for hypocrisy. Foley, when he wasn't spending his time chasing teenage boys, pushed for legislation to crack down on child pornography. House Republicans, when they weren't busy ignoring Foley's scummy behavior, pushed for legislation to uphold traditional values. The big sin here, according to the social left, is that Foley and the Republicans tried to bolster antiquated sexual mores while simultaneously bucking them in personal life. Were Mark Foley a liberal Democrat from San Francisco, liberals would be hard-pressed to spot a problem with his behavior.

But Republicans should not have been. The Republican Party is the party supposedly dedicated to those antiquated value systems that made this country great. It should not have been difficult for Republicans to identify the problems with Foley's behavior: pedophilia, exploitation, and yes, homosexuality. And yet, because the Republican Party has become infected with either the unchecked will to wield power or the milquetoast tolerance of the social left, House Republicans did nothing. Shame on them.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; foley; hatefuldems; partisans; party; scandals
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To: Brilliant
"Nonetheless, their outrage seems somewhat incongruous when we take into account their moral belief system."

"somewhat incongruous"? LOL!!!

Try "absolutely hypocritical".

I'll give writer the benefit of the doubt that they're conspicuously understating the obvious. Of course, the nuance will be lost on neoliberals.

21 posted on 10/04/2006 10:11:43 AM PDT by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: truthfinder9

If he was a Democrat, he'd be getting his rocks off every night with 16 year old boys rather than just IM-ing them lurid text.


22 posted on 10/04/2006 10:12:21 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: truthfinder9
The DIMs will just laugh it off, and say "Boys will be boys!"

Sad

23 posted on 10/04/2006 10:12:58 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: truthfinder9
It should not have been difficult for Republicans to identify the problems with Foley's behavior: pedophilia, exploitation, and yes, homosexuality.

I hope the author, and other like-minded Republicans, are prepared to deal with the fallout if the course of action they think Hastert should have taken is actually adopted. They are basically saying that every contact a homosexual has with a young male, whether sexual or not,should be investigated and punished. Do they really believe the public will back this? Are they prepared for the onslaught of homophobia allegations? Do they think this will help with independents? Like it or not (and I don't) homosexuality is accepted in our society and in our government. Association among homosexuals and males, even young males, is not illegal. When the first emails were uncovered Foley was spoken to and told to stop the legal but suspicious activity. He said he would. To have done anymore would be to treat Foley as a pervert because he was homosexual. If the Republicans want to accept this as the correct stance fine, than they ought to purge the party of all homosexuals.

24 posted on 10/04/2006 10:13:02 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: truthfinder9
If he were a Democrat?

• James Carville would be on the talking head shows slandering the victims.

• ABC News would run a 12-second spot on the story and then never mention it again.

• Lisa Myers would do an exhaustive interview with one of the victims which the NBC execs would try to squelch but end up running only after clamorous protests from Republicans.

• Foley would be re-elected 6 or 7 times and spoken of as the "conscience" of his party.
25 posted on 10/04/2006 10:13:04 AM PDT by Antoninus (Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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To: art_rocks
I do wonder how the gay lobby feels about the democrat attack on Foley.

I've been wondering how N.O.W. feels about the Democrat attack on those freeing women in the Middle East to not be executed, vote, attend school, choose their dress, etc.

26 posted on 10/04/2006 10:14:55 AM PDT by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: Antoninus

Perhaps a unusual suggestion here....but why not let Foley come right back into the campaign...announcing himself back into the race....as a democrat? The ballots are done...you can't change this part...but he could shake up Florida for decades by announcing a party change and saying that the Democrats would readily accept a gay in congress. Even if he were joking in the spoof...he might still win, and just resign on day one and let Jeb Bush appoint someone to fill the slot. There is nothing to lose in this...and alot of people would think for a minute....and agree that a democrat gay guy is ok...thus assuring his reelection.


27 posted on 10/04/2006 10:16:25 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Brilliant

He was just a few years ago.


28 posted on 10/04/2006 10:17:18 AM PDT by svcw
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To: truthfinder9

Foley is an assumed name for Bill Clinton. He groped girls half his age back then, and the Democrats didn't blink an eye, defended him to the wall, and claimed it really didn't matter because it was "just all about sex."


29 posted on 10/04/2006 10:17:30 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Antoninus
If he were a Democrat?

Also, there'd be a book deal in the works already, and D's would charge that the pages were Young Republicans.

30 posted on 10/04/2006 10:17:43 AM PDT by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: truthfinder9
What if Foley were a Democrat?

If Foley was a dem, the story would be "just about sex" and the Republicans would be homophones who are afraid of sexuality.

The MSM would be handing out passes to any liberal they could find, and at best this would be a one day story about uptight conservatives and "everyone does it" and what's the big deal?

We would also be told how much an investigation would cost to look into the issue and the young man in question would be looked at with doubt -- did he come from a broken home? Is he unstable? Was Foley the dem just trying to help him? Did the child really come on to him?

Yep, the MSM would give a pass - and reporters would state how they would be thrilled to have someone like Foley come on to them... Ohhhh, they would love to wear the knee pads of Monica...

31 posted on 10/04/2006 10:23:17 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Everyone is somebody's else's weirdo." -- Scott Adams (author of Dilbert))
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To: T. Jefferson
Republicans should say there is no crime, Foley has been caught typing some bad words. He respectfully resigned, and we are moving forward and consider the non-crime closed.

Any subsequent questions "we refer you to discuss that with Mr. Foley." Also: "Like all election seasons, democrats are going to concentrate on sleazy smear campaigns and trying to scare everyone with lies and misery. Republicans are here to discuss the issues that effect this country going forward. "

32 posted on 10/04/2006 10:29:58 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: Axhandle
and he should have to pay for his own rehab treatment (convenient escape) and forfeit his congressional retirement - that would be some punishment.
33 posted on 10/04/2006 11:32:05 AM PDT by flyingx (Woodrow F. Call for President)
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To: truthfinder9

If Foley had been a Dem, he would have followed the standard practice of past Dems in sex scandals and remained in office, with his fellow Dems circling the wagons around him to protect him. They would have used the excuses that he'd never written any of the pages while they were in Washington, but only wrote them after they had returned home. The Instant Messages (and we still don't know who released those to the press or if they're even real), would have never been seen. As a Democrat, he would have been returned to the House without any problem.


34 posted on 10/04/2006 11:34:21 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Labyrinthos
Foley is into "chickhawks" and "twinks."

I'm not going to ask how you know those terms.

35 posted on 10/04/2006 11:35:27 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: truthfinder9

If he were a Democrat, we'd be calling for the resignation of every Democrat in Congress who know about his activities and covered it up.


36 posted on 10/04/2006 11:35:49 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: truthfinder9

Rush is reporting a story about an ex-page named Beck Hamon making comments about Foley. This guy was once a Republican, turned Democrat, who worked in the Clinton White House and most recently in the Kerry campaign. He's claiming Republicans knew about Foley's emails 11 years ago. Rush is questioning why he didn't come forward 11 years ago with the story. But the connection with the Clinton's and Kerry is definitely something to keep in mind.


37 posted on 10/04/2006 11:37:52 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: darkangel82
"I'm not going to ask how you know those terms."

Me either. I worked for 23 years in NY state prisons, saw all kinds of things, and I don't even know what those terms mean. Of course I've been retired for three years, so they could be new gay jargon.

38 posted on 10/04/2006 11:40:49 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: GianniV
You've been saying this about Limbaugh all over the place today. It's not true, first of all--he is all over the Admin on immigration, on coddling social programs like "No Child Left Behind" and crap like that. But he is rational enough to understand that the Dems are no alternative, and that as unhappy as we are sometimes with the GOP, they are right on the most important issues of the day, especially the war on Islamic Fascists.

Is it possible you are here for disingenuous reasons?

39 posted on 10/04/2006 11:52:11 AM PDT by Defiant (Do you realize if the Star Wars creator's last name was Thomas, we would have Tom Skywalker?)
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To: mass55th
Of course I've been retired for three years, so they could be new gay jargon.

They could be. I'm not up on that, not being that way inclined.

40 posted on 10/04/2006 11:59:18 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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