Posted on 10/02/2006 6:07:20 PM PDT by kellynla
Doctors who operated on Pope John Paul after a 1981 assassination attempt were convinced he would die under the knife, his ex-secretary says in a new book.
Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, now archbishop of Krakow in Poland, also says in a memoir due to be published next year that efforts to save the pope were hampered by a series of glitches.
Brief excerpts of "My Life with Karol" were made available on Monday by the Italian publisher Rizzoli ahead of its presentation at the Frankfurt Book Fair this week.
In a chapter called "Those Two Bullets", Dziwisz recalls his feelings when Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca shot the Pope while his open jeep was being driven through St Peter's Square on May 13, 1981 at the start of his weekly general audience.
"I tried to hold him up (after he was hit by the second bullet) but it was as if he was letting himself go sweetly," writes Dziwisz, who served Karol Wojtyla for nearly four decades from the time the future pontiff was a bishop in Poland.
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Maybe St. John Bosco.
There really wasn't a doubt for many of us.
I have just had some 'conversation' with a demi-being called Luke-Jr who claimed that the Pope is actually an anti pope and that he follows the True Pope, being a True Catholic (R). I went out to the various websites for a looksee. Hysterical anti Catholic ranting, the like of which I've seen on various fundamentalist websites, complete with CAPITAL LETTERS and coloured text. And lots and lots of exclamation marks.
This is just some further evidence that JPII was the real thing and put here by the Lord God Almighty in order to deal with the Communist hordes, as I pray that Benedict was put here to deal with the Muslim hordes.
Hmm. I see that Luke-Jr has been banished. The mods are wise.
Apostolate?
Maybe,I have to think and pray about this more but my gut feeling is 2 and the 2nd will be succesful.I hate to even type this and it is my private thought.
Why is it when something unexpected happens that is good, it's a miracle, but if it's bad God doesn't get blamed for it? And if it turns out later that the bad had good effects, God starts getting credit again?
...and thought this passage from the Old Testament might shed some light on the question...
Jb 1:6-22
One day, when the angels of God came to present themselves before the LORD, Satan also came among them.
And the LORD said to Satan, “Whence do you come?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “From roaming the earth and patrolling it.” And the LORD said to Satan, “Have you noticed my servant Job,
and that there is no one on earth like him, blameless and upright, fearing God and avoiding evil?”
But Satan answered the LORD and said, “Is it for nothing that Job is God-fearing?
Have you not surrounded him and his family and all that he has with your protection? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his livestock are spread over the land.
But now put forth your hand and touch anything that he has, and surely he will blaspheme you to your face.”
And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power;
only do not lay a hand upon his person.” So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
And so one day, while his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in the house of their eldest brother,
a messenger came to Job and said, “The oxen were ploughing and the asses grazing beside them, and the Sabeans carried them off in a raid.
They put the herdsmen to the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.” While he was yet speaking, another came and said, “Lightning has fallen from heaven and struck the sheep and their shepherds and consumed them; and I alone have escaped to tell you.”
While he was yet speaking, another messenger came and said, “The Chaldeans formed three columns, seized the camels, carried them off, and put those tending them to the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.”
While he was yet speaking, another came and said, “Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in the house of their eldest brother, when suddenly a great wind came across the desert and smote the four corners of the house. It fell upon the young people and they are dead; and I alone have escaped to tell you.”
Then Job began to tear his cloak and cut off his hair. He cast himself prostrate upon the ground, and said, “Naked I came forth from my mother’s womb, and naked shall I go back again.
The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD!”
In all this Job did not sin, nor did he say anything disrespectful of God.
I don't know if that helped, but I hope it did.
5.56mm
I'm Christian, but I always had a problem with the story of Job.
So God allowed a perfectly righteous man to lose everything good in his life, and allowed the slaughter of his family, servants and herds, all that he had worked for, to merely prove a point to Satan?
I get the message of the story; unwavering faith in God. But I still dont like the story up until that point...
There's a DVD available of the TV film on John Paul II's life, originally broadcast within a short time after the Pope's death, made with largely European actors, titled "Have No Fear". Covers the attempted assassination and other major events of the Pope's life.
Yep, the Iron Maiden rounded out the trinity.
Honorable mention to Helmut Kohl, too.
I had a piciture of it once. A figure clad in all white going up a hill with lots of dead bodies around.
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. [Matt.4:10]
Don't you need to get the Sacrament of Holy Orders?
(or were being a wise guy)
no, I get the point, and I get the ultimate message. It's just the way that the message went about being brought out...that's what never sat well with me, that's all I was saying.
thank you though! =)
I'll give credence to agca's own words.
If you ever finally understand, it will be a miracle.
There have been crazy Islamicists since the word go - Conan Doyle wrote about them in the 1880s, and of course there was that little brushfire war with the Mahdi . . .
C.S. Lewis points out that he has no genealogy, no family, no tribe, and the entire story happens in a country nobody knows anything about (it appears in a couple of lists in Jeremiah and Lamentations, but otherwise the Bible is silent).
It's because God did not create evil or death. Evil and death (with all its accompanying suffering) came into this world because of sin, and the many chain-reactions sin has set off, striking down both the innocent and the guity as its victims.
No, God did not create evil. But he permits it, only because it is the consequence of something He treasures so supremely: human freedom. He could have made us puppets or robots, but He permitted freedom --- and though there's little justice in this life, He will bring good out of everything in the end.
You watch. "Eye has ot seen, nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the mind of man to imagine, what Gods has prepared for those who love Him."
Marking.
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