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Democrat leaders knew drunken Kennedy drove off bridge, left girl to die, and paid off family
ytedk.com ^ | 101-06 | ytedk, comments by dfu

Posted on 10/01/2006 7:03:57 PM PDT by doug from upland

NOTE: Mark Foley should have resigned earlier and should be prosecuted to the full extend of the law.

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GREAT BACKGROUND IS HERE

- Farrar thrust himself through the open window and into the car. Looking up, he found the body of a young woman. Her head was cocked back, her face pressed into the footwell. Both hands gripped the front edge of the back seat to hold herself in conformity with its upholstered contours. It was not the position assumed by a person knocked unconscious by the impact of a crash, Farrar said. "If she had been dead or unconscious, she would have been prone, sinking to the bottom or floating on top. She definitely was holding herself in a position to avail herself of the last remaining air that had to be trapped in the car." - Farrar took hold of the woman's thigh, and as soon as he touched the body he knew she was dead; the flesh in his hand was hard as wood. "Instead of life-saving, I realized I was now evidence-gathering," Farrar said. "Because I was the only person who would be able to observe this situation, it behooved me to pay attention to what I saw underwater to be able to report it."

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In the furor over the disgraced GOP congressman Mark Foley, let's go back in time, shall we? Don't you just love the headline that GOP leaders knew of some Foley email in late 2005?

It was July 19, 1969 when the drunken Ted Kennedy, possessing no current drivers license, drove his Oldsmobile off the bridge, ran away like a coward, and left Mary Jo Kopechne to suffocate when the oxygen ran out in her air pocket.

The Democrat leaders at the time were Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield of Montana and Speaker of the House John McCormack of Boston, Mass.

There is no doubt they knew what happened. We didn't have email in those days. Kennedy did not send an email to Mary Jo. He killed her. He did no jail time. There was a coverup. He paid off the family.

Republican Mark Foley is gone, albeit not quickly enough, because our side won't stand for that kind of behavior. The Democrats, on the other hand, have allowed a killer to remain as a leading senator for over 40 years.

The smartest thing Foley could have done was to immediately switch parties. The gay fascists would have defended him and called this drama a witch hunt. He could have probably even stayed in office if he drove a page off a bridge and kept his body and $90,000 bribe money in his freezer.

Just as we watched the drunken failed lifeguard killer lead the way on complaints of waterboarding, it would be so fitting for Barney Frank to lead an investigation of Foley's activities. Maybe Nancy Pelosi could lead an investigation of plastic surgeons who ruin their patients' faces.


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KEYWORDS: democrats; dnc; kennedy; killer; liberals; lifeguard; maryjo; olds
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1 posted on 10/01/2006 7:03:58 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Wait, he didn't have a license???? I've never seen that.


2 posted on 10/01/2006 7:04:44 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: doug from upland

Who knew about Clinton, Cigars, and the sink and when did they know it?


3 posted on 10/01/2006 7:06:30 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Hildy

Senator Kennedy's Driver's License had Expired

- Senator Kennedy's driver's license had expired on February 22, 1969 (nearly 5 months before the accident) and had not been renewed.
- Although driving with an expired license was only a misdemeanor, it did provide the evidence of negligence needed to prove a manslaughter charge in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.
- The license problem was "fixed" by officials at the Registry of Motor Vehicles, under the direction of Registrar Richard McLaughlin, before the legal proceedings began.




Ted Kennedy's Driving Record:

- Ted Kennedy had a record of serious traffic violations. Their nature formed a pattern of deliberate and repeated negligent operation. Particularly bothersome was a June, 1958 conviction for "reckless driving."

- On March 14, 1958, Deputy Sheriff Thomas Whitten had been on routine highway patrol outside Charlottesville, Virginia, when an Oldsmobile convertible ran a red light, sped off, then cut its tail lights to elude pursuit. A license check revealed the car belonged to Edward M. Kennedy, a 26-year-old law student attending the University of Virginia. Kennedy had previously been fined $15 for speeding in March 1957.
- Whitten was on patrol at the same intersection a week later, he testified, "And here comes the same car. And to my surprise, he did exactly the same thing. He raced through the same red light, cut his lights when he got to the corner and made the right turn." Whitten gave chase. He found the car in a driveway, apparently unoccupied. Looking inside, he discovered the driver, Teddy Kennedy, stretched out on the front seat and hiding. Whitten issued a ticket for "reckless driving; racing with an officer to avoid arrest; and operating a motor vehicle without an operator's license (Mass. registration.)"
- Kennedy's attorneys were able to win numerous postponements, but eventually he was convicted on all charges and paid a $35 fine. Court officials never filed the mandatory notice of the case in the public docket, however, and Kennedy's name had not appeared on any arrest blotter. Instead, a local reporter discovered the case when he spotted 5 warrants in Kennedy's name in a court cash drawer.

- Three weeks after his trial, Ted Kennedy was caught speeding again, and still operating without a valid license.

- In December 1959, Kennedy was stopped again for running a red light and fined $10 and costs. In Whitten's view, "That boy had a heavy foot and a mental block against the color red. He was a careless, reckless driver who didn't seem to have any regard for speed limits or traffic ordinances."




- The offenses in Virginia had occurred on Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts driver's license, but mysteriously neither the Registry of Motor Vehicles nor the office of probation in Cambridge had any record of the out-of-state convictions. Had it been revealed at the inquest, the Senator's history of negligence and reckless driving would have been further evidence to support a charge of manslaughter in the Chappaquiddick accident.

~ Senatorial Privilege by Leo Damore




Manslaughter in Massachusetts :

"Any person who wantonly or in a reckless or grossly negligent manner did that which resulted in the death of a human being was guilty of manslaughter, although he did not contemplate such a result." In other words, negligence in exposing another to injury by doing an act, supplied all the intention the law required to make a defendant responsible for the consequences.

- "It's automatic in Massachusetts when a person is killed in an accident for the prosecutor to bring an action for criminal manslaughter." ~ Joseph Gargan

- Less than a week after the accident at Chappaquiddick, the Oregonian (Portland, Oregon ~ 7-24-69 ) reported an accident in Salem, Oregon, in which a car crashed through the chain on a ferry while crossing the Willamette River. A passenger riding in the car had drowned, but the driver escaped from the car and swam to shore. The driver was charged with negligent homicide.


4 posted on 10/01/2006 7:08:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

I know I am going to get flamed here, but two wrongs do not make a right. And the situation here is about a minor, to boot.

This argument is like rolling around with pigs. Every one is going to get covered with mud.


5 posted on 10/01/2006 7:08:30 PM PDT by trimom
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To: doug from upland

Someone needs to tell me why the whole GOP is to blame. We don't look the other way, the guy who did this took the appropriate action and resigned. Why wasn't Kennedy held to the same standard, because of his last name.


6 posted on 10/01/2006 7:09:28 PM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: doug from upland

The Lavender Mafia has been hounding him for some time. Sexual preference is a private thing unless you have the wrong politics.

It is why the National Organization of Women supported a serial rapist because he had the right views on abortion.


7 posted on 10/01/2006 7:10:01 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: trimom

Did you pay any attention that I led this off with the desire that Foley should be prosectued to the full extent of the law and should have been gone sooner?


8 posted on 10/01/2006 7:10:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
The driver was charged with negligent homicide.

But he wasn't a Kennedy. They're special. /sarc

9 posted on 10/01/2006 7:10:43 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: flynmudd

Foley should have been forced to resign when the leadership first knew of the emails.


10 posted on 10/01/2006 7:10:58 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
yep - and it
's okay to have a KKK high mucky muck in the senate -and okay that just a couple years ago, he used the N word in a TV interview 3 times. (I sat with mouth agape and then waited for the uproar...still waiting)

and it's okay to have a traitor, who, while still in uniform, meet with enemy Vietnam leaders in Paris 3 x's - for which he should still be looking through bars - and constitutionally, not have been able to serve in any elected office, even dog catcher, let alone Senator.

And it's okay that a past president sends off a 'burgler' who steals files from the Nat'l Archives to impede an investigation...

and just how IS the "Jefferson of the cold cash" case coming along? Any indictments? Any grand juries? Anything at all?

And when are the leakers going to get hauled in?

And and and
11 posted on 10/01/2006 7:15:26 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: doug from upland

The leadership should have called the cops when they first knew of the emails.


12 posted on 10/01/2006 7:15:53 PM PDT by Hong Kong Expat
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To: maine-iac7; doug from upland
The difference betwen the GOP and the Dems can be summed up in a simple statement:

We take out our trash. They keep theirs in office.

13 posted on 10/01/2006 7:16:48 PM PDT by dirtboy (F)
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Foley would have been okay if he were discussing what was in Sandy Burglar's pants instead of a kid's pants.


14 posted on 10/01/2006 7:18:51 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: dirtboy

Absolutely.


15 posted on 10/01/2006 7:19:11 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Hong Kong Expat; doug from upland
At this point, I have no idea what the GOP leadership knew and when they knew it. We cannot count on the MSM to tell this story straight.

Quite frankly, it will be difficult to separate lack of awareness of the problems with Foley from plausible deniability set up by having staffers deal with the issue under the radar. But sooner or later the truth will come out.

Until then, I will withhold judgement. But when the truth does come out, the judgement should be severe, the political consequences be damned.

16 posted on 10/01/2006 7:19:53 PM PDT by dirtboy (F)
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To: trimom
know I am going to get flamed here, but two wrongs do not make a right. And the situation here is about a minor, to boot.

yes BUT - seems I remember a lot of hoopla about one DUI on Bush as a young man (they tried to cost him the election over it) - he didn't try to run - didn't 'hide' and. altho' the police offered to let it slide (to daddy Bush ) his father said no - he did it, he has to face the music. That's the exact opposite of how the Kennedy Clan was raised - They are a nest of vipers

17 posted on 10/01/2006 7:22:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: doug from upland

Drudge is saying that the kids were already talking about their girlfriends ("not getting any") and erections so he may have not been the one to make it sexual.

Drudge says there are 4 articles in tomorrow's New York Times.


18 posted on 10/01/2006 7:22:40 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: doug from upland

Forget it. I know people who are utterly convinced, and won't be swayed in the face of any counter-evidence, that this was yet another attempt to kill off a Kennedy.


19 posted on 10/01/2006 7:24:06 PM PDT by detroitdarien
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To: dirtboy

"But sooner or later the truth will come out."

Yeah, after the election. Like Tom DeLay's long postponed trial.


20 posted on 10/01/2006 7:24:38 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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