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Breaking: Senate overwhelmingly approves House Border Wall (per KFI radio)
KFI radio broadcast ^ | 9/29/06 | self

Posted on 09/29/2006 7:40:28 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance

Edited on 09/29/2006 7:52:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The House version of the bill approving and funding the building of a U.S./Mexico border wall has overwhelmingly passed the Senate, according to KFI News.

Link to station provided.

UPDATE: Senate backs fence along Mexico border
Reuters
By Donna Smith and Richard Cowan

The U.S. Senate on Friday overwhelmingly agreed to authorize construction of a fence along the U.S. border with Mexico, sending to President George W. Bush before the November 7 elections a bill that Republicans hope will showcase their efforts to stop illegal immigration.

The Republican-written bill authorizing construction of about 700 miles of fence was one of the last bills to clear Congress as lawmakers prepared to leave Washington to campaign for the congressional elections. On a vote of 80-19 the Senate approved the bill already passed by the House of Representatives and it now goes to Bush for his signature.

Bush had sought broad immigration legislation that would create a guest-worker program to help provide a steady workforce for jobs Americans are either unable or unwilling to do. But he was unable to marshal support for it in the face of opposition from a solid group of House Republicans who pushed for tougher enforcement and border measures instead.

A separate bill approved by the House on Friday provided an initial $1.2 billion in funding for the fence and other border-security measures for the fiscal year that begins Oct 1. The money is part of a $34.8 billion bill for domestic security programs for the fiscal year that begins October 1.

The broad spending bill also criminalizes the construction of tunnels that could be secret passageways from Mexico or Canada for drug smugglers, illegal aliens or terrorists.

The Senate was expected to pass the funding bill quickly and send it on to Bush along with the fence authorization.

Opponents of the fence said it would be expensive and was not an effective deterrent to illegal immigration.

"This is a political gimmick," said Sen. Ken Salazar, a Democrat from Colorado. "It is not in the long-term interest of of the United States of America and the Western Hemisphere."

The government of Mexico on Thursday issued a statement expressing "its profound concern" with the fence. The statement, translated from Spanish, said such measures "are contrary to the spirit of cooperation that should prevail to guarantee security in the common border."

IMMIGRATION OVERHAUL

Backers of the fence said it was an important tool to clamp down against illegal immigration. An estimated 1.2 million illegal immigrants were arrested in the last fiscal year trying to cross into the United States along the border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. Sections of the fence would be built in each state.

"Fortifying our borders is the first prong of comprehensive immigration reform and it's an integral piece of national security," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican.

Lawmakers and analysts say Congress could tackle comprehensive immigration legislation in a post-election sessions, but they acknowledge difficulties.

"It will be tough but doable," said Rep. Adam Putnam (news, bio, voting record), a Florida Republican.

"There is a lot of pent up pressure and interest in doing something in the lame duck session," said Craig Regelbrugge of the Agriculture Coalition for Immigration Reform.

Democrats accused the Republican majority of playing politics with the fence bill after raising immigration as an election-year issue but having little to show in the way of legislation.

"This is about November. This is about incumbent protection, not about border protection," said Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

Earlier this year the Senate passed broad immigration legislation that combined border security and employer sanctions with a plan to create a guest-worker program and provide a path to citizenship for many of the 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States.

The Senate and House were unable to compromise and instead resorted to passing a series narrow border security measures.



TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: aliens; hr4437; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; s2611
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This isn't going to be your Home Depot fence that you see in suburban backyards.

Hopefully it won't be a Simcox-type fence too.

161 posted on 09/29/2006 8:44:42 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: sionnsar

Hmmmmm.....so Maria Cantwell voted against the wall on the Mexican border.....hmmmm....she's in campaign mode right now....I'm kinda surprised.


162 posted on 09/29/2006 8:45:01 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: kabar
It was the Senate Dems and RINOs who blinked. The Conservatives in the House and Senate won.

Indeed. The House Conservatives, as well as the Senate Republicans led by Jeff Sessions, deserve much praise. So goes the conventional wisdom this was dead without amnesty attached.

Speaking of which, I wonder what Fred barnes is thinking tonight?

163 posted on 09/29/2006 8:45:51 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"Where was Kennedy? Staggering out at a watering hole on East Capitol Street trying to hail a cab back to the floor?"

Maybe he borrowed some of Patches' sleeping pills and is not quite sure when he has to vote!



164 posted on 09/29/2006 8:46:06 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: ShowMeMom

Mexico has had a wall against us gringos for many decades:

http://www.directory.com.mx/immigration

Can you believe the hypocrisy?


165 posted on 09/29/2006 8:46:15 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

How much will we SAVE by keeping interlopers from our social programs and hospitals, etc?


166 posted on 09/29/2006 8:46:37 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"Where was Kennedy? Staggering out at a watering hole on East Capitol Street trying to hail a cab back to the floor?"

I loved it (Thursday PM)when he was screaming, in his drunken voice, about a foreigner, held upside down, almost drowning during interrogation. Teddy got waaaay too close to a discussion about Teddy and Miss Kopechne.


167 posted on 09/29/2006 8:47:23 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Just mythoughts

The votes of both Clinton (yea) and Lieberman (nay) surprised me.


168 posted on 09/29/2006 8:47:38 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Just mythoughts
Wow, there must be some hidden polling data out there, cause I keep hearing/reading that this is one of the last things on peoples minds

I wonder how many bricks they ended up getting?

169 posted on 09/29/2006 8:47:45 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: RobFromGa
What were Cantwell and Murray thinking? I guess Cantwell and Murray couldn't stomach criminalizing tunneling across the border into Washington. I guess they cruely just voted to stop American school kids from visiting Canada (and Canadians from shopping in the U.S.) without a passport after 2007 - there's no way the secure ID cards will be ready by then. The bill pushed back the implementation date until June 2009 and requires special rules for school trips. The heartless shrews want to stop school kids from playing sports in Canada and wreck the economy of Washington state's border towns.
170 posted on 09/29/2006 8:48:09 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks; Dog Gone; Just A Nobody; trooprally; bmwcyle; apackof2; PilloryHillary; ...
Until we have legislation (and enforcement) to end the 'anchor baby' policy, prosecute employers, and create penalties for being in the country illegally, the illegal alien problem will not end.

The problem may never end but if CONSUMERS will pay attention (but nothing else) to those employers who right now are whining about the situation--pear growers, for example--and refuse to patronize illegal employers--scofflaw employers would wither and die. That doesn't solve the whole Government Benefits incentive to illegals, but it's a start.

Meanwhile, we need to help people in 3rd World countries realize that it is THEIR LEADERS who are keeping them as 'Huddled Masses.' We need to better encourage Liberty-Seekers under oppressive rulers around the world to have their own Boston Tea Parties. The overseas Bush Doctrine needs badly to be better applied HERE....
171 posted on 09/29/2006 8:48:20 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: goodnesswins

If McGavick is smart he'll have an ad up tomorrow highlighting her vote vs her recent claims that she's tough on the border.


172 posted on 09/29/2006 8:48:40 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Irish Eyes

"The votes of both Clinton (yea) and Lieberman (nay) surprised me."

It does pretty much describe the political picture.


173 posted on 09/29/2006 8:49:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Hugin
Now we can use the predator drones to spot those hoards of Mexicans hauling extension ladders across the desert. ;~)

Napolitano can already show us 51' ladders.


174 posted on 09/29/2006 8:49:10 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: jveritas
I think he is totally demoralized with the Republican gay congressman who resigned today because of his scandal with the 16 year old male.

This is one R congressman we don't need. Maybe we can still win the seat with a replacement candidate, maybe not. But we sure as heck don't need child molesting gay Republicans in office, so good riddance. Just something else to be glad for, that this guy is gone.

175 posted on 09/29/2006 8:49:39 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I believe it was Tony Snow that said any measure that included tougher border enforcement MUST include a guest worker program.

Tony was the one, if I correctly remember, who had even made this suggestion as policy within a week or two of arriving at his new job.

Tony, I respect so much about you, but YOU ARE FREAKING WRONG!

EAT THIS!


176 posted on 09/29/2006 8:51:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Rembrandt

"Battle of Velasco
(26 June 1832)
In an armed prelude to the Texas Revolution, the Battle of Velasco marked the first bloodshed in the then deteriorating relations between Texas and Mexico.

In the conflict, Domingo de Ugartechea, the Mexican commander in charge of a fort at the town of Velasco, attempted to block attempts by the Texans to transport a cannon for possible use against Mexican forces at nearby Anahuac. After several days of fighting, the Texans under John Austin and Henry Smith prevailed when the Mexicans exhausted their ammunition.

Before the fighting ended, however, some 8-10 Texans were killed and another 12 wounded. Mexican losses were placed at 5 killed and about 15 wounded.

Under the provisions of the truce, Ugartechea and his men were allowed to return to Mexico. Tensions later eased somewhat when Mexican officials dismissed the Mexican commander at Anahuac, who had been the primary cause for the Texan's frustration with Mexican authorities in the area."
http://www.lsjunction.com/events/velasco.htm


177 posted on 09/29/2006 8:51:41 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Jeff Head
Yes, Excellent point...I should have pointed that out too.

Funny how the Mexican War of 1847 just gets a passing mention in history books... /sarcasm off

178 posted on 09/29/2006 8:52:22 PM PDT by Alkhin (Thieving tyranny is all they offer.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

I don't know what your approach is in totality, but it doesn't make sense to me as you've explained it.

A fence won't cause problems with legitimate business unless you can tell me what legitimate business crosses the border without our knowledge. Are GM vehicles on trucks doing the Rio Grande crossing on paths we haven't monitored?

It's not Mexico's job to guard its border, no more than it's our job to prevent felons here from sneaking into Canada or Mexico. Putting the blame on them for our stance that keeping them out is too costly is ridiculous.

If they don't care about their northern border, that's their choice. If we don't care about our southern border, that's our choice. Sounds like we're starting to care, but your assertions are definitely extremist at present. I hope you rethink them.


179 posted on 09/29/2006 8:52:30 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: LikeLight

Exactly. Also many still do not see how difficult it is for the democrats to win 15 seats in the House and have a very tiny majority. It is a much more difficult task than many believe.


180 posted on 09/29/2006 8:52:31 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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