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Cardinal Mahoney's Unspoken Agenda on Illegal Immigration
Human Events Online ^ | Sep 27, 2006 | Jim Gilchrist and Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 09/28/2006 6:10:37 AM PDT by kellynla

Earlier this month, a scant 400 people marched in the Los Angeles Labor Day demonstration in support of illegal immigrants, a dramatic decline compared to the 400,000 who attempted to bring downtown Los Angeles to a halt in May. Still, this didn’t keep Cardinal Roger Mahoney from joining in and proclaiming to tell parishioners at the opulent Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels in downtown Los Angeles that “without this immigrant population, this state would be bankrupt.”

To the contrary, Mahoney has it backwards. Unless this illegal immigrant invasion is stopped right now, the state of California is certain to go bankrupt, and soon.

While writing our new book, “Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America’s Borders,” we attempted to interview Mahoney. Sadly he refused our request. We were able to speak with Kevin Appleby, director of migration and refugee policy for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, D.C. Mr. Appleby asserted to us that the church’s solution is “different from the Minutemen’s solution,” which he characterized as “to build a wall and seal the border.” Instead, Appleby argued in support of a “guest worker program,” which he refused to categorize as an amnesty.

When pressed, Appleby shifted ground, arguing that the United States has a “moral obligation” not to its own citizens, but to open our borders to Mexicans who want to live and work here. “With the U.S. being the greatest economic power in the world,” he explained to us, “we would have some obligation to help Mexico solve their problem of poverty.” He then insisted that legalizing Mexican here illegally would allow the church to make sure they are hired at or above minimum wage, with benefits.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; catholicchurch; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; mahoney; rogermahony
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To: SMM48
"I hope enough people protest the Cardinal so Rome will muzzle him. Transfer him to Mexico."

The most recent issue of The American Legion Magazine has an article that lists Mexican law. Under Mexican law, Cardinal Mahoney is unable to perform as clergy in Mexico.

The law prohibits "foreigners from most public-service positions and from becoming clergymembers".
61 posted on 09/28/2006 9:36:01 AM PDT by oneolcop (Take off the gloves!)
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To: humblegunner
you found your way here, you can find your way out

"There you go again, giving orders."

apparently, you can't tell the difference in a suggestion and an order. LMAO

Do you have anything to bring to the debate about illegal immigration

If not, pulllllllezzzzz quit bothering me. FYI, that is NOT an order but a request.LOL
62 posted on 09/28/2006 9:47:00 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Guess I hit a nerve! Better put some ice on that, keyboard heavyweight.


63 posted on 09/28/2006 9:50:30 AM PDT by Graymatter (Since I'm the genius, you may have the last word.)
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To: Graymatter

that's right, genius and like I said, anytime you think you have the stones to insult me to my face;
you just let me know.
I won't be holding my breath. LMAO


64 posted on 09/28/2006 9:54:20 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Sounds like the RCC is recruiting for the Democrat Party, financed by the good old tax drones of the USA, as usual.


65 posted on 09/28/2006 9:57:42 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: norton

"Mahoney and the Catholic church have been knee deep in politics, illegal immigration, and 'rights' for those illegals - generally things that should not be allowed of any religious entity."

Religious leaders have a right and an obligation to speak out on moral issues but not to participate in politics per se.
The teaching of the Church on immigration is well stated in posts 41 and 34 of this thread.
The problem some of us have with this is that Mahoney does not appear to be following Church teaching on this issue.
This is not surprising to us as he does not appear to follow Church teaching on other important issues either.


66 posted on 09/28/2006 9:59:50 AM PDT by rogator
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To: kellynla

*poke-poke-poke*


67 posted on 09/28/2006 10:09:52 AM PDT by Graymatter (Since I'm the genius, you may have the last word.)
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To: kellynla

Thank you. No time to respond further. Next time perhaps. For the record, I am fanatical about Illegal Immigration as well.


68 posted on 09/28/2006 10:30:48 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: norton

As I said earlier, I believe we still have freedom of speech in this country and if a member of the clergy wishes to speak; I may not agree with their position on a particular issue but I will be the first one to defend them of their right.

Now if you have a problem with that; then you should move to China where they don't allow Catholic priests to speak!


69 posted on 09/28/2006 10:30:57 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I can't really agree with you about Cardinal Mahoney. I don't fault him so much for his stand on Mexican immigrants, because although I disagree with it there are some good Catholics who somewhat naively think this is the charitable position to take.

Mahoney, however, is not just naive. He has been a dissident and a troublemaker who has spent much of his life undermining the Church. There's nothing naive about it, it's deliberate. The sooner he is out of office the better. He should have been replaced long since by a bishop who is truly loyal to the Church.


70 posted on 09/28/2006 10:32:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Well you and I are on the same page.
I don't agree with Mahony either and I too believe he should be replaced but I am NOT going to smear the man.
We all make mistakes and I believe Mahony is on the wrong side of this issue of illegal immigration. The Catholic Church and her bishops should be demanding that Mexico FIX THEIR MESS instead of dumping their problems on our back porch. Mexico is one of the richest countries in the world and there is no reason for their citizens or foreign terrorists to be crossing our border illegally and/or allowing illegal drugs to be smuggled into America.


71 posted on 09/28/2006 10:42:32 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: montag813
Cardinal Mahoney, American Traitor.

Cardinal Mahoney, Traitor to the Catholic Faith.

72 posted on 09/28/2006 10:46:36 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: Sunshine Sister; kellynla; montag813

Most of these immigrants become protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, or unchurched.


73 posted on 09/28/2006 12:04:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: kellynla

May God in Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit confound, confuse, and destroy every plan and scheme of Cardinal Mahony, and may the Blessed Trinity convert his heart.


74 posted on 09/28/2006 12:38:23 PM PDT by Maeve (Sr. Leonella, Martyr of Christ, pray for us.)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Cardinal Mahoney, Traitor to the Catholic Faith.

That is up to his flock. I am more concerned with his massive efforts to subvert the authority of the United States over its borders and over illegal aliens in its midst. I consider him a threat to the nation.

75 posted on 09/28/2006 1:00:06 PM PDT by montag813
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To: kellynla
1) Mahoney is abetting outsiders in breaking of our laws and making your church a party to illegal activity; anti-American activity.

2) I have a problem with any protected institution being directly active in politics, this applies to a tax protected church as well as to a tax funded school system, to the officials of that church and to the officials of a teacher's union.

3/a) I would have a problem if the government sought to close down the catholic church, but I doubt if either you or I would feel particular agonies if Santeria were deemed illegal for cruelty to animals. (?/!)

3/b) What's your defense for Voodoo?

4) Pedophile priests being protected by the RC also might claim freedom of association or expression if they were out where someone could get them ... you OK with that one as well?

5) Just remember that Sharpton and Jackson are also 'men of God' - it does not follow that all men of cloth are saints.

76 posted on 09/28/2006 2:16:08 PM PDT by norton
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To: kellynla

I am a Catholic myself, and I will say this loudly, RESPECT IS EARNED, NOT GIVEN, and respect for the office the Cardinal holds only goes so far. Even if Cdl. Mahoney was for the sealing of the borders and deportion of all illegal aliens, I would still not respect him for the horrible manner he runs the LA archdiocese, how hetrodoxy goes unchecked, how religous vocations have been all but destroyed.


77 posted on 09/28/2006 2:19:44 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: kellynla

Telling the truth is not bashing the Catholic church.


78 posted on 09/28/2006 2:20:55 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: norton
Maybe you should enlighten us kelly, as long as I've lived in the county Mahoney and the Catholic church have been knee deep in politics, illegal immigration, and 'rights' for those illegals - generally things that should not be allowed of any religious entity.

I've found the history of the Catholic Church fascinating. You may know of the Borgia family. Pope Alexander VI, father to Lucrezia Borgia, (he had several mistresses who bore him about half a dozen children) was a ruthless s.o.b. who killed anyone who stood in the way of his power trip. His son, Cesare, was a cardinal (thanks to dear old dad) after leaving the orders he became a murderous and ruthless duke.

There is one very important part of our Constitution we can thank the Catholic church for, Amendment one. Our founders wanted to spare us the strangle hold Europe had suffered.

79 posted on 09/28/2006 11:31:54 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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