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Former [UVA Football] Teammate: George Allen Stuffed Deer Head into Black Fmaily's Mailbox
WDBJ Channel 7 ^ | September 26, 2006

Posted on 09/26/2006 4:22:31 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

September 26, 2006

US Senator George Allen is responding to more allegations of racist behavior.

The latest comes from a former college teammate.

Former teammate Doctor Ken Shelton says, "Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where 'blacks knew their place.'"

"He used the N-word on a regular basis back then," said Shelton, who was in Salon.com.

During a hunting outing with Allen and another teammate, Shelton says Allen drove the three to a black neighborhood and "he proceeded to take the doe's head and stuff it into a mailbox."

Bishop Gerald Glenn says he used to see Allen as a Confederate flag waving redneck and has talked to the senator about his perception problem in the African American community.

While the two still disagree on key issues, Glenn says assassinating Allen's character does nothing for the voters of Virginia.

Allen told reporters today that he and Doctor Shelton weren't close and haven't spoken to each other in more than 30 years. Other teammates have released statements saying they've never heard Allen use racial slurs.

Allen's approval rating is down in the latest poll released today by SurveyUSA. The poll was taken last week, so the numbers do not reflect possible reaction to the Salon.com article.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen; duxgotthezot; hesbeenzottedjim; macaca247; slimefest; zotbait
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To: DuxFan4ever

I dunno. The kid he called Macaca was working for the dems and got his rocks off spreading the tale, i think the kid was macaca.


41 posted on 09/26/2006 4:44:59 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: supremedoctrine
"The stupid "macaca" thing was apparently just a warm up for what was later to be revealed about Alllen.Something about these charges against Allen sounds exactly believable, like the details.Seems like his accusers are only too willing to stand by their accusations. I don't think the GOP needs their own version of Robert Byrd. Goodbye, George Allen.Not interested in him anymore. Allen has already risen to the level of his incompetence, and won't go beyond."

You signed up last week and are already calling Republicans KKK racists.

42 posted on 09/26/2006 4:45:00 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; M. Thatcher

Sorry, I meant posts #6 and #26.


43 posted on 09/26/2006 4:45:10 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: DuxFan4ever

What pisses me off is Allen should know better than to compare anyone to a monkey,

"or whatever he did".


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You are not even sure what Senator Allen "did" but you allow yourself to become p'd with him. How mature of you. You are allowing attack media to sway your emotions.


44 posted on 09/26/2006 4:45:42 PM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: DuxFan4ever

Huh? Oh, I was just pinging my good buddy AM for the opportunity to apologize to you directly. I'm sure it will come very soon.

You're just silly.


45 posted on 09/26/2006 4:45:46 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Too late in this case?


46 posted on 09/26/2006 4:47:28 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail "indcons" to get on/off the Military History ping list)
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To: gopwinsin04
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not believe this contrived story about Senator Allen.

Ken Shelton is an anti-tobacco and environmental activist. He has already been proven wrong by several of Allen's other UVA teammates on two of his allegations, that Allen gave him the nickname "Wizard" in honor of the KKK and that Allen enrolled at the University of Virginia because he "wanted to go to a place that kept black people in their place." The only other person who was supposedly there during this "deer head incident" conveniently died three months ago. Ken Shelton is NOT credible, PERIOD!!!!

47 posted on 09/26/2006 4:47:56 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Vote as if your life depends on it -- because it does!!!)
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To: roses of sharon

He has my vote but not beyond his current seat.


48 posted on 09/26/2006 4:51:41 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: gopwinsin04
Contact the CDC. We have a new disease: Allen Derangement Syndrome.
49 posted on 09/26/2006 4:51:47 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: shrinkermd

Senator Byrd is running for reelection in the very next state to Virginia and he used the n word on TV just a few years ago.

Oh, it's ok to use it if you are a democrat. Oh, sorry for the confusion.

/double standard


50 posted on 09/26/2006 4:51:50 PM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

I wonder if 99% of black people have ever used cracker or honkey??????????? Enquiring minds want to know. I have never used the N word in a derogatory manner. I have told black, polish, redneck, yankee, southern, liberal,woman, white,cowboy,men jokes. And I am a redneck southern white woman. This is sooooooooooooo stupid and awful. Chrissy Matthews grew up in a more racist area than I ever did and like I said I am from the SOUTH. I have never called anyone the N word. There was a black dog in town with that name when I was a child. Not my dog though.


51 posted on 09/26/2006 4:52:07 PM PDT by therut
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

BINGO


52 posted on 09/26/2006 4:52:18 PM PDT by pissant
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To: AmishDude

Then why did he apologize? I have no idea why he called the guy that name, but it sounds like it was something that could be construed as a slur, and Allen didn't know it. Allen came off like a light-weight. Still, long way to go.


53 posted on 09/26/2006 4:53:01 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: DuxFan4ever
On Friday, August 11, 2006, at a campaign stop in Breaks, Virginia, near the Kentucky border, U.S. Senator George Allen twice used a word that sounds like "macaca" to refer to S.R. Sidarth, who was filming the event as a "tracker" for the opposing Jim Webb campaign. Sidarth is of Indian ancestry, but was born and raised in Fairfax County, Virginia. The incident has resulted in a significant reduction in Allen's lead over Webb in most polls, and cast doubt upon the outcome of the November election.

This incident is an ALLEGATION, made by a supporter of his opponent.

On August 16, the National Journal reported that two Virginia Republicans who heard the word used by Allen's campaign staff said "macaca" was a neologism created from "Mohawk" and "caca," Spanish slang for excrement. "Said one Republican close to the campaign: 'In other words, [Sidarth] was a shit-head, an annoyance.'"

Which Sidarth most probably was.
54 posted on 09/26/2006 4:53:09 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Funny thing...DuxFan ended up being "banned or suspended."

Fancy that.


55 posted on 09/26/2006 4:53:34 PM PDT by AmishDude
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Look at all the 'Born in '06' types trollswarm this thread! Hilarious!


56 posted on 09/26/2006 4:54:40 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: gopwinsin04

Ken Shelton, who is apparently acting in concert with someone, lives outside of the Charlotte NC area. Looks to me like about 100 miles southwest.

The incident below also occurred about 100 miles outside the Charlotte area but in the other direction (southeast), not long before Shelton started floating this story, which just happens to involve someone who is dead.

I find it difficult to believe that Allen asked a BLACK teammate to tell them where blacks lived so he could do something like this, and then proceeded to do it in his presence. The teammate's surviving relative (an aunt I think) says that teammate always spoke very highly of Allen.

Anyway, I know what "THEY" would say. Just a strange coincidence.
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Deer Parts Found In Hoke County Mailboxes
Juvenile Confesses To Prank

POSTED: 5:37 pm EST January 6, 2006
UPDATED: 9:32 pm EST January 6, 2006

HOKE COUNTY, N.C. -- Every day in the past, Evelyn Matthews has gone outside her home to get her mail, hoping for something good. But when she opened the mailbox and peeked inside one day this week, something else peeked out back at her. She was standing face to face with a deer head.

"It was scary," said Matthews. "When you see two eyes looking at you, it's really frightening."

She ran for help and warned her neighbors -- and for good reason. They found deer parts in their mailbox.

"It's nasty," said neighbor Michael Degregorio. "It's just disgusting, really."

Investigators called it a teen prank, and said they caught the teen who pulled it off. The suspect has promised to get his victims new and clean mailboxes. They promised not to press charges.

"Everybody gets in trouble when they're young," said Degregorio.

Matthews and Degregorio said they now think twice about getting their mail.

"Like I told my husband, I don't know if I want to check my mailbox anymore or not," said Matthews.


57 posted on 09/26/2006 4:54:49 PM PDT by freespirited (Have you hugged a terrorist today? 1-800-JMC-CAIN)
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To: supremedoctrine
Right, you are from New Jersey and you know all about George Allen and Virginia.

I lived in Virginia for 22 years, including while George Allen was Governor. I attended an event at a public housing development in Alexandria for a candidate for the general assembly, at which George Allen spoke passionately and movingly of his commitment ot end poverty and help people own homes. Afterward he spoke cordially and worked the crowd which was entirely African American. He did not have to do this, and there were no TV cameras there, but he did it because he believed it. I had forgotten about it until all this stuff came up, and now I am pissed off.

You may not believe it, but there are actually conservative Republicans in Virginia who are not racist! And you don't have to be a redneck or act like one to get elected in Virginia. People pushing this story are ignorant and bigoted themselves, about how modern Southerners think and vote. We know the truth about George Allen. And we also know the truth about the sleazy liberals who are behind this outrageous, unprecedented smear campaign.

58 posted on 09/26/2006 4:54:52 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Vote as if your life depends on it -- because it does!!!)
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To: cdcdawg

He didn't "call the guy" any name. He apologized because with the media onslaught, what else can he do? He didn't say that he meant anything by it, because he didn't.

We simply cannot let this crap slide. It'll be your guy next.


59 posted on 09/26/2006 4:55:22 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: DuxFan4ever; gopwinsin04

You know what pisses me off is how gleeful supposed Conservatives are to repeat over and over and over a transparent Democrat Campaign smear job as fact and use it in the mistaken notion that smearing Allen now will some how help their choice for 2008.

Conservative better quit worrying about 2008 and start worrying about 2006.

PS. Mark Levin NUKED this crap in the 1st hour of his show today. These POSs are Democrats activist scum frauds.


60 posted on 09/26/2006 4:55:41 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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