Posted on 09/25/2006 9:56:31 AM PDT by presidio9
Edited on 09/25/2006 10:02:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Strange doings in Virginia. George Allen, former governor, one-term senator, son of a famous football coach and in the midst of a heated battle for re-election, has just been outed as a Jew. An odd turn of events, given the fact that his having Jewish origins has nothing to do with anything in the campaign and that Allen himself was oblivious to the fact until his 83-year-old mother revealed to him last month the secret she had kept concealed for 60 years.
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DieHard: you don't seem to know a lot about Judaism and I believe that was the lady's point.
So, my girlfriend her father is Jewish (kinda) but her mother is from a Christian family, religion isn't really practiced to much in there family. So, is my girlfriend Jewish?
> Then why does he use the words "the Jews" with such venom when he describes the passion? He was writing for a gentile audience.
So what? What ethnicity does this then make him, Chinese?
What's funny is that these people believe it is they who decide who is and who is not a Jew, when ultimately it is God and only God who makes such determinations.
> DieHard: you don't seem to know a lot about Judaism and I believe that was the lady's point.
I get it: the old "you-don't-know-what-you're-talking-about" argument. Weak at best: more of a whinge than a proper response.
If I am going to make a gratuitous, throw-away personal attack I can think of a lot better insults than "Mel."
> If I am going to make a gratuitous, throw-away personal attack I can think of a lot better insults than "Mel."
I'm sure you can -- but this was a Cheap Shot that suited your purpose at the time.
Like I said, this seems to be your preferred method of debate. That's a real shame.
I responded in a very serious and respectful way to some of the points you brought up, but you are too deep into your hissy fit to compose a serious rebuttal to my respectful response.
I know that you are about a dozen time zones removed from me, but this is a public forum, not a private tête à tête, sweetiepie sir.
why?
> I know that you are about a dozen time zones removed from me...
Not wanting to be pedantic, but it is actually the other way 'round, Ma'am. You're on the wrong side of the International Date Line to make *that* claim.
> you are too deep into your hissy fit to compose a serious rebuttal to my respectful response.
I guess that's because it is difficult to take you seriously!
Shalom,
*DieHard*
....Look. We all had the same mother in Africa. God rest her soul.
Thanks -- read 'em. Unconvincing. Gotta love this Revisionist stuff, tho' -- it can be manufactured from any viewpoint without challenge or question or demur. And there are always a few folk out there who will believe it.
But it is highly probable that the works of the ancients, which he says they [the Ascetics of Egypt] had, were the Gospels and the writings of the apostles, and probably some expositions of the ancient prophets, such as are contained in the Epistle to the Hebrews, and in many others of Paul's Epistles.
[Marcus Introduction] The Middle Ages, for the Jew at least, begin with the advent to power of Constantine the Great (306-337). He was the first Roman emperor to issue laws which radically limited the rights of Jews as citizens of the Roman Empire, a privilege conferred upon them by Caracalla in 212. As Christianity grew in power in the Roman Empire it influenced the emperors to limit further the civil and political rights of the Jews. Most of the imperial laws that deal with the Jews since the days of Constantine are found in the Latin Codex Theodosianius (438) and in the Latin and Greek code of Justinian (534). Both of these monumental works are therefore very important, for they enable us to trace the history of the progressive deterioration of Jewish rights.
And in the reign of Tiberius things went on in the same manner, although at that time things in Italy were thrown into a great deal of confusion when Sejanus was preparing to make his attempt against our nation; (160) for he knew immediately after his death that the accusations which had been brought against the Jews who were dwelling in Rome were false calumnies, inventions of Sejanus, who was desirous to destroy our nation, which he knew alone, or above all others, was likely to oppose his unholy counsels and actions in defence of the emperor, who was in great danger of being attacked,...
Die Hard, believe what you want to believe, pray the way you want to pray but do not look down on a religion that hs survivied over 5,000 years in spite of jerks like Mel Gibson, et al.
What Mel Gibson said, in effect, is that Jews are to blame for every single misery on the planet. A flaccid, imbecilic overstatement, albeit having been the modus operandi of one Adolph Hitler.
It was a very unfortunate outburst and I took offense to it, too, even though I am not Jewish.
Actually ALL christians that believe in bibilical tenents are Jewish..
(Some don't)...
According to the bible the gentile(christians) are grafted into the Jewish ROOT... The Jewish "plant" is a hybrid..
The man is an alchoholic, and he was drunk. Pray for him. left-wing radicalist Jews used it as an excuse to prove that he is an antisemite (he isn't). And to prove that "The Passion of the Christ" is anti-semitic (it isn't). Read the Acts Of The Apolstles. It's all there.
You need to understand how silly it is for Jews to accuse true Christians of being anti-semitic. First, we accept the Torah in its entirety, and second, the only root to the second Coming is through you, Jews, building the Third Temple. Jews have plenty of enemies in this world, but they do not include practicing Christian. That includes a sober Mel Gibson.
I know. But, keep in mind, sometimes alcohol gives us the courage to say what we otherwise wouldn't. And no doubt will later regret.
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