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Krauthammer: Turning up Jewish (everyone is Jewish until proven otherwise)
Townhall ^ | 09/25/06 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 09/25/2006 9:56:31 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 09/25/2006 10:02:37 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Strange doings in Virginia. George Allen, former governor, one-term senator, son of a famous football coach and in the midst of a heated battle for re-election, has just been outed as a Jew. An odd turn of events, given the fact that his having Jewish origins has nothing to do with anything in the campaign and that Allen himself was oblivious to the fact until his 83-year-old mother revealed to him last month the secret she had kept concealed for 60 years.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: DieHard the Hunter

DieHard: you don't seem to know a lot about Judaism and I believe that was the lady's point.


181 posted on 09/26/2006 2:03:36 PM PDT by juliej
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To: goldstategop
It doesn't matter because if one converted, they don't need to convert back. If they had a Jewish mother, in the eyes of Jewish law, they are a Jew. End of story!

So, my girlfriend her father is Jewish (kinda) but her mother is from a Christian family, religion isn't really practiced to much in there family. So, is my girlfriend Jewish?

182 posted on 09/26/2006 2:16:25 PM PDT by cpprfld (Who said accountants are boring?)
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To: juliej

> Then why does he use the words "the Jews" with such venom when he describes the passion? He was writing for a gentile audience.

So what? What ethnicity does this then make him, Chinese?


183 posted on 09/26/2006 2:18:07 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: Oberon

What's funny is that these people believe it is they who decide who is and who is not a Jew, when ultimately it is God and only God who makes such determinations.


184 posted on 09/26/2006 2:21:52 PM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: juliej

> DieHard: you don't seem to know a lot about Judaism and I believe that was the lady's point.

I get it: the old "you-don't-know-what-you're-talking-about" argument. Weak at best: more of a whinge than a proper response.


185 posted on 09/26/2006 2:25:03 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
You called me "Mel" as a gratuitous, throw-away personal attack.

If I am going to make a gratuitous, throw-away personal attack I can think of a lot better insults than "Mel."

186 posted on 09/26/2006 3:39:05 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 23-28)
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To: Alouette

> If I am going to make a gratuitous, throw-away personal attack I can think of a lot better insults than "Mel."

I'm sure you can -- but this was a Cheap Shot that suited your purpose at the time.

Like I said, this seems to be your preferred method of debate. That's a real shame.


187 posted on 09/26/2006 4:00:40 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
this seems to be your preferred method of debate.

I responded in a very serious and respectful way to some of the points you brought up, but you are too deep into your hissy fit to compose a serious rebuttal to my respectful response.

I know that you are about a dozen time zones removed from me, but this is a public forum, not a private tête à tête, sweetiepie sir.

188 posted on 09/26/2006 6:31:01 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 23-28)
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To: Alouette
Mel, I once thought you rocked. But now I think you suck.

why?

189 posted on 09/26/2006 8:18:32 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: Alouette

> I know that you are about a dozen time zones removed from me...

Not wanting to be pedantic, but it is actually the other way 'round, Ma'am. You're on the wrong side of the International Date Line to make *that* claim.

> you are too deep into your hissy fit to compose a serious rebuttal to my respectful response.

I guess that's because it is difficult to take you seriously!

Shalom,
*DieHard*


190 posted on 09/26/2006 8:47:05 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: presidio9

....Look. We all had the same mother in Africa. God rest her soul.


191 posted on 09/26/2006 8:49:32 PM PDT by onyx eyes ( .....they found a live-seemingly, Bacteria type, in rocks. Recently.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"Who said anything about the Acts of Pilate? The Gospels of St Matthew, St Mark, St Luke, and St John are not forgeries. And without exception, they were written by Jews, not Pagans..."

Who killed Jesus?

Part 4 - Who wrote/compiled/edited (and when) the various New Testament Books?
192 posted on 09/26/2006 10:14:57 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

Thanks -- read 'em. Unconvincing. Gotta love this Revisionist stuff, tho' -- it can be manufactured from any viewpoint without challenge or question or demur. And there are always a few folk out there who will believe it.


193 posted on 09/26/2006 10:33:14 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"Thanks -- read 'em. Unconvincing. Gotta love this Revisionist stuff, tho' -- it can be manufactured from any viewpoint without challenge or question or demur. And there are always a few folk out there who will believe it."

Truths found through study of the history of the religion can be difficult for some--even study begun with subjective documents from the same religion. Here are a few bits and pieces for interested readers.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/
(see late dates regarding gospels, along with notes about unknown authors, citations and links on the various pages)

Eusebius wrote, in his Ecclesiastical History (History of the Church),
Book II, CHAPTER XVII of Philo's Account of the Ascetics of Egypt
But it is highly probable that the works of the ancients, which he says they [the Ascetics of Egypt] had, were the Gospels and the writings of the apostles, and probably some expositions of the ancient prophets, such as are contained in the Epistle to the Hebrews, and in many others of Paul's Epistles.

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2501.htm

"Jewish History Sourcebook: Jews and the Later Roman Law 315-531 CE"
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/jewish/jews-romanlaw.html
Quote:
[Marcus Introduction] The Middle Ages, for the Jew at least, begin with the advent to power of Constantine the Great (306-337). He was the first Roman emperor to issue laws which radically limited the rights of Jews as citizens of the Roman Empire, a privilege conferred upon them by Caracalla in 212. As Christianity grew in power in the Roman Empire it influenced the emperors to limit further the civil and political rights of the Jews. Most of the imperial laws that deal with the Jews since the days of Constantine are found in the Latin Codex Theodosianius (438) and in the Latin and Greek code of Justinian (534). Both of these monumental works are therefore very important, for they enable us to trace the history of the progressive deterioration of Jewish rights.


[See Book XVIII, Antiquities, and Book II, War of the Jews, behind the following link. "Pilate" is a good keyword to search the page, if you're in a hurry. ...best to read the whole thing, though.]
The Works of Flavius Josephus
Translated by William Whiston
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/josephus/josephus.htm

On Pilate's boss, Sejanus

Excerpt from Philo's Legatio ad Gaium, 159-160, XXIV. C.D. Yonge translation, "On The Embassy To Gaius"):

And in the reign of Tiberius things went on in the same manner, although at that time things in Italy were thrown into a great deal of confusion when Sejanus was preparing to make his attempt against our nation; (160) for he knew immediately after his death that the accusations which had been brought against the Jews who were dwelling in Rome were false calumnies, inventions of Sejanus, who was desirous to destroy our nation, which he knew alone, or above all others, was likely to oppose his unholy counsels and actions in defence of the emperor, who was in great danger of being attacked,...

194 posted on 09/27/2006 1:12:13 AM PDT by familyop
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Die Hard, believe what you want to believe, pray the way you want to pray but do not look down on a religion that hs survivied over 5,000 years in spite of jerks like Mel Gibson, et al.


195 posted on 09/27/2006 6:09:33 AM PDT by juliej
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To: juliej; DieHard the Hunter; presidio9; Alouette; familyop

What Mel Gibson said, in effect, is that Jews are to blame for every single misery on the planet. A flaccid, imbecilic overstatement, albeit having been the modus operandi of one Adolph Hitler.

It was a very unfortunate outburst and I took offense to it, too, even though I am not Jewish.


196 posted on 09/27/2006 10:05:19 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: presidio9; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; Whosoever
[ Krauthammer: Turning up Jewish (everyone is Jewish until proven otherwise) ]

Actually ALL christians that believe in bibilical tenents are Jewish..
(Some don't)...

According to the bible the gentile(christians) are grafted into the Jewish ROOT... The Jewish "plant" is a hybrid..

197 posted on 09/27/2006 10:12:21 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: Froufrou

The man is an alchoholic, and he was drunk. Pray for him. left-wing radicalist Jews used it as an excuse to prove that he is an antisemite (he isn't). And to prove that "The Passion of the Christ" is anti-semitic (it isn't). Read the Acts Of The Apolstles. It's all there.


198 posted on 09/27/2006 11:25:58 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: juliej
Die Hard, believe what you want to believe, pray the way you want to pray but do not look down on a religion that hs survivied over 5,000 years in spite of jerks like Mel Gibson, et al.

You need to understand how silly it is for Jews to accuse true Christians of being anti-semitic. First, we accept the Torah in its entirety, and second, the only root to the second Coming is through you, Jews, building the Third Temple. Jews have plenty of enemies in this world, but they do not include practicing Christian. That includes a sober Mel Gibson.

199 posted on 09/27/2006 11:30:36 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

I know. But, keep in mind, sometimes alcohol gives us the courage to say what we otherwise wouldn't. And no doubt will later regret.


200 posted on 09/27/2006 11:32:01 AM PDT by Froufrou
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