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Well, should I get my tin foil or does any of my pathetic little thoughts make any sense? Has my memory of these events failed me??
1 posted on 09/24/2006 9:03:19 AM PDT by technomage
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To: technomage

The greatest success of Clinton's presidency was having sex with a 20 something year old intern in the Oval Office.


80 posted on 09/24/2006 10:23:50 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: technomage

I recall that any time Clinton would lob a few bombs any place, some FReeper would mention Wag the Dog. Not just about Serbia.


81 posted on 09/24/2006 10:23:50 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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FULL TRANSCRIPT: Clinton Takes On Fox News
83 posted on 09/24/2006 10:26:06 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: technomage

Clinton is a sociopath. Period.


85 posted on 09/24/2006 10:26:53 AM PDT by hershey
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To: technomage

THAT is the statement that shows that either Clinton is having memory problems and mixing up events, or is lying.

Now, let me think about this for awhile - memory problems or lying? Gee, I'm not sure...

Chris sure is on to something, isn't he!

Revisionist history is a classic Communist tactic.


87 posted on 09/24/2006 10:29:59 AM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: technomage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwJabtvSUQ

Bill Clinton Freaks Out


88 posted on 09/24/2006 10:31:09 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Oh, come on. Clinton's just trying to save his friends in 'Publik Edjumakashun' the future expense of having to edit and re-print millions of History books. You know, the ones that our kids have been indoctrinated with during the past decade, declaring that Clinton was 'The Best President Ever.'

Yeesh. What a pathetic, pathalogical liar this guy is. Keep talkin', Slick! Keep wagging your finger in peoples faces! I love it when you show us your slimey underbelly you sad, delusional old horndog.


90 posted on 09/24/2006 10:34:37 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: technomage

I thought wag the dog in relation to Sudan asprin factory bombing.

Should be easy to check ... it was right during the release of "Wag the Dog" movie.


91 posted on 09/24/2006 10:34:57 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Never Forget)
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To: technomage
Clinton keeps claiming that 'right wing conservatives' were constantly complaining that he was too obsessed with bin Laden.

Wallace should have asked Clinton for names - or quotes or something. It's obvious Clinton was "mixing it up" to his advantage.

Didn't conservatives object to him bombing some tents in the desert that coincided with the Monica news coming out? If memory serves, the camp had been deserted several weeks before - common knowledge - and he bombed it anyway - as a distraction.

96 posted on 09/24/2006 10:39:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Muslim outrage would be taken more seriously if Muslims weren't such arrogant hypocrites.)
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Toon is NUTS!!!! He's actually insane...

We all did say 'wag the dog' when he had missiles hit the aspirin factory and 'Stan where UBL's hideout was...it WAS 'wag the dog' 'cause he was being impeached!!!

97 posted on 09/24/2006 10:40:52 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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It makes as much sense as can be made from anything the self absorbed, self hating left does. The irony about the Serbia stuff is that Clinton was helping the wrong side... the Muslims. So, how would helping the Muslims be doing anything to help with the Bin Ladin situation?

Ok, now I need to put on my tin hat. What if Bin Ladin coerced Clinton into helping Islam in order to not attack us for a little while? nah, not even Belzebubba would cut a deal with the devil.

99 posted on 09/24/2006 10:42:40 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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http://www.citizensoldier.org/clintonbombed.html

AN ANALYSIS

Why Clinton Bombed the Serbs - A National Disgrace Few American Even Know Nor Care About

by Stella L. Jatras

1. To appease the Islamic world for our daily bombing of Iraq. President Clinton wanted to prove to the Muslim world that we really cared and that we were willing to destroy a Christian people to prove it.

2. The Saudis wanted the first Islamic country in the belly of Europe, and Clinton wanted cheap oil and Saudi money. The Saudis had signed a letter of intent to buy $6 billion worth of Boeing aircraft. The day after we bombed the Serbs in 1995 based on the self-inflicted Markale market place massacre by Bosnian Muslim forces, the Saudis signed on the dotted line. A coincidence? I don't think so. This is what Yossef Bodansky, author of "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America," had to say in his 1995 book, "Offensive in the Balkans:"

- "Phase Three started with the self-inflicted major terrorist provocation. On Friday 5, 1994, a major explosion rocked the Markale -- Sarajevo's main market place -- causing heavy casualties. What was immediately described as the ubiquitous "Serb mortar shell" was actually a special charge designed and built with help from HizbAllah experts and then most likely dropped from a nearby rooftop onto the crowd of shoppers. Video cameras at the ready recorded this expertly-staged spectacle of gore, while dozens of corpses of Bosnian Muslim troops killed in action (exchanged the day before in a 'body swap' with the Serbs) were paraded in front of cameras to raise the casualty count.

- "This callous self-killing was designed to shock the West especially sentimental and gullible Washington, in order to raise the level of Western sympathy to the Bosnian Muslims and further demonize the Serbs so that Western governments would be more supportive of Sarajevo's forthcoming aggressive moves, and perhaps even finally intervene military."

There were other reports from European newspapers such as The [London] Sunday Times," with headlines that read, "Serbs 'not guilty' of massacre, Experts warned US that mortar was Bosnian" (1 Oct. 1995), and "US Framed Serbs for Market Bombing," from the Stoneyhill Center, a British think tank (Oct 1995). No such headlines appeared in US national newspapers.

3. Clinton needed a new mission for NATO. The Soviet Union had collapsed and if you recall, the NATO Treaty was a collective security agreement between member nations that if one NATO nation were attacked by the Soviet Union (CCCP), other NATO members would go to its defense. In violation of International law, the NATO Treaty, the UN Charter and without the approval of Congress, Clinton and his administration, along with Serb-hating Madeline Albright, Wesley Clark, Richard Holbrooke and the rest of the Clinton gang, bombed tiny Yugoslavia that did not attack us or any NATO nation, was never a threat to us, nor did it have weapons of mass destruction.

One graphic example of Madeleine Albright's animosity towards the Serbs was the time she was entering the United Nations building as US ambassador and a Serb called out and asked why she was doing these terrible things to the Serbs. She answered, "Because they deserve it!" A more humorous account regarding Ms. Albright is the story of how the war in the Balkans really began. During a meeting of Madeleine Albright with the all-male NATO ministers, she asked the question, "Well gentleman, do we make love or do we make war?" Of course, the answer was unanimously for war.

4. Clinton couldn't let this pip-squeak of a nation defy The New World Order.

5. Our wag-the-dog president had to have a diversion from his affair in the Oval Office with a woman young enough to be his daughter.

6. Clinton also needed a war to prove he was a wartime president in the mold of FDR in order to put to rest his draft-dodging days and his contempt for the US military. The propaganda against the Serbian people has not been equalled since Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, said, "If you tell a big enough lie and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." In civil wars all sides do terrible things, but in this war all blame fell on the Serbs. President Clinton was (and continues to be) the biggest con artist this nation has ever seen and it is unfortunate that the American people believed every word uttered by him regarding the events in the Balkans even though over 75% of the American people believed him to be a liar. The fate of the Serbs from Bosnia to Kosovo was sealed.

It is a sad reflection on all Americans what William Jefferson Clinton did to the Serbian people in our name. Sadder still is the realization that if he were able to run for president again he might very well be elected.

105 posted on 09/24/2006 10:53:05 AM PDT by paltz
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I wondered the same thing regarding his comments about conservatives and Bin Laden. I think you are right, he is mixing historical eents to shape his legacy. But why didn't Wallace call him on it?


107 posted on 09/24/2006 11:02:23 AM PDT by FLCowboy, (Ironically, Gore notes that he has run for president twice and says: "I know what it takes to win.”)
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To: technomage
The thought of having to watch the Clintons for four more years makes me ill.

I haven't run across anyone more self-absorbed than the both of them are.

CC&E

112 posted on 09/24/2006 11:16:42 AM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (So many comments, so little time!)
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when caught red handed......
BLAME VAST RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS....


113 posted on 09/24/2006 11:17:24 AM PDT by JFC (President George W Bush, the comforter in chief.)
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God I love to see Willy apoplectic…kudos to Chris Wallace!!! I think Willy was referring to this little known Congressional investigation.

January 16, 1997
Extended Bosnia Mission Endangers U.S. Troops
Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm
114 posted on 09/24/2006 11:17:30 AM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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From the London Guardian




Clinton knew target was civilian

American tests showed no trace of nerve gas at 'deadly' Sudan
plant. The President ordered the attack anyway

By Ed Vulliamy in Washington, Henry McDonald in Belfast , and
Shyam Bhatia and Martin BrightSunday August 23, 1998

President Bill Clinton knew he was bombing a civilian target when
he ordered the United States attack on a Sudan chemical plant.
Tests ordered by him showed that no nerve gas was on the site and
two British professionals who recently worked at the factory said
it clearly had no military purpose.





Jordan Times (News Section)


'Bombed factory
was incapable of making chemical arms'
By Tareq Ayyoub

AMMAN; Jordanian
experts who supervised the construction of a
pharmaceutical factory in Sudan, destroyed by U.S.
missiles Thursday, said Saturday that the site had no
capability to produce chemical weapons. Ahmad Salem, the
engineer who put together
the construction plan for Al Shifa plant in Khartoum in
1993, said the factory was designed to produce more than
50 types of medicine for malaria, tuberculosis,
antibiotics and other diseases in addition to veterinary
drugs.
“There is no chance this
factory could be used to produce chemical weapons, it was
designed to produce medicine for people and
animals,” Salem told a press conference on Saturday.

Salem was among three Jordanians
who were involved in the establishment of the factory
which was inaugurated on July 1997. The other two are Eid
Abu Dalbouh, a pharmacist, and Mohammed Abdul Wahed, the
engineer who designed the equipment used to produce the
medicines.



http://tinyurl.com/pycb6


125 posted on 09/24/2006 11:48:40 AM PDT by kcvl
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EVIDENCE CONFIRMS THAT CLINTON'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL ATTACK ON IRAQ WAS A LONG-PLANNED POLITICAL PLOY

Robert Novak points out that (The Washington Post, 12/21/98, p. A29) "As Clinton took Palestinian applause in Gaza last Monday [December 14], secret plans were underway for an air strike coinciding with the House impeachment vote. The president had time to consult with Congress and the U.N. Security Council but took no step that might stay his hand.

"As whenever a president pulls the trigger, Clinton's top national security advisers supported him. But majors and lieutenant colonels at the Pentagon, whose staff work undergirds any military intervention, are, in the words of a senior officer, ‘200 percent opposed. They disagree fundamentally.’ They know the attack on Iraq was planned long before Butler's report and consider it politically motivated."




U.N. VIOLATIONS PROP WAS A CLINTON-SCRIPTED PROP

According to Rowan Scarborough (The Washington Times, 12/17/98, p. A1), "The White House notified the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Sunday that President Clinton would order air strikes this week, 48 hours before he saw a United Nations report declaring Iraq in noncompliance with weapons inspectors, it was learned from authoritative sources last night....

"Pentagon sources said National Security Council aides told the Joint Chiefs to quickly update a bombing plan that was shelved in mid-November and were told that a strike would be ordered in a matter of days.

"Israeli spokesman Aviv Bushinsky said yesterday in Jerusalem that President Clinton discussed preparations for an attack with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu just minutes before Mr. Clinton flew home from Israel's Ben-Gurion Airport on Tuesday, ending a three-day peace mission...."




If you have any doubts, let's just review the facts:

* On Aug. 17, 1998, Clinton went on national television to offer an explanation-cum-apology for his deposition that day in the Monica Lewinsky investigation. On Aug. 20, 1998, Clinton launched a cruise missile assault against Sudan and Afghanistan. The Afghan real estate was supposed to be the base of terrorist Osama bin Laden. But he was not present, though 24 others were reportedly killed. The Sudan site was an alleged chemical-weapons plant that turned out to be a perfectly legitimate pharmaceutical company. The night watchman was killed.

* On Dec. 16, 1998, Operation Desert Fox began with air and cruise missile attacks on Iraq just hours before the House of Representatives was to commence its impeachment debate. The proceedings were delayed by a day because of the military action. The operation ended three days later, by some accounts, out of respect for the Islamic holiday of Ramadan. Nevertheless, some 2,000 Iraqis were killed in the series of bombing raids.

* In February 1999, Clinton was faced with two scandals breaking at once -- the emerging evidence that he had raped Juanita Broaddrick and the details of security lapses that resulted in American nuclear secrets falling into the hands of the Chinese. Though many analysts were surprised at the precipitous manner in which negotiations were halted, Clinton chose this moment to launch what turned into an 11-week bombing campaign in Serbia, killing some 6,000 Yugoslavian troops, 2,000 civilians and sparking the revenge killings of some 11,000 ethnic Albanian Muslims.



http://tinyurl.com/orwnd


126 posted on 09/24/2006 11:54:39 AM PDT by kcvl
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The last time President Clinton launched air strikes on Iraq, Monica Lewinsky's name was just beginning to become a household word. The comparisons to that attack last winter with the movie "Wag the Dog," in which a president wages a fake war to divert attention from a sex scandal, were inevitable, but ultimately speculative, and only came from unofficial sources, not Congress.

Now, Lewinsky is probably more famous than Michael Jackson, and Bill Clinton's eleventh-hour bombing of Baghdad, just before a probable impeachment by the House, has some Members of Congress questioning the President's motives in violation of an unwritten code that says you don't criticize the Commander-in-Chief during wartime.

"Never underestimate a desperate president," said Rep. Harold Solomon, (R-NY)

Solomon, who is retiring at the end of the year, said Clinton's only way of postponing his impeachment and getting it "off the front page" was the air strike on Iraq.


128 posted on 09/24/2006 11:58:00 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: technomage; Howlin; onyx
"Bin Laden has stated unequivocally that all Americans, including "those who pay taxes," are targets. At a recent Senate hearing, CIA Director George Tenet warned against the danger of a stepped-up terrorist campaign, saying, "There is not the slightest doubt that Osama bin Laden, his worldwide allies, and his sympathizers are planning further attacks against us."

Even more dangerous, entering the Kosovo war may provoke terrorist retaliation within the United States. It's not only our U.S. troops who will be put in mortal danger. Bin Laden has stated unequivocally that all Americans, including "those who pay taxes," are targets. At a recent Senate hearing, CIA Director George Tenet warned against the danger of a stepped-up terrorist campaign, saying, "There is not the slightest doubt that Osama bin Laden, his worldwide allies, and his sympathizers are planning further attacks against us."

Clinton's reckless meddling in Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Sudan, and Iraq exposes Americans to retaliation from terrorists regardless of whether he achieves any phony "peace" or actually sends in troops.

Clinton predicted on January 22 that it is "highly likely" that a terrorist group will attack on American soil within the next few years. He is using this risk as the excuse to create a Domestic Terrorism Team headed by a military "commander in chief," with a $2.8 billion budget. We should not underestimate the deceit and deviousness of Clinton's plans to use aggressive presidential actions to wipe out public memory of his impeachment trial.

Clinton has already issued a Presidential Decision Directive to authorize military intervention against terrorism on our own soil. Secretary of Defense William Cohen said in an Army Times interview that "Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection."

Deputy Secretary of Defense John Hamre has been floating the idea of designating a unit of U.S. troops as a Homelands Defense Command to take charge in case of a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Hamre argues that the military's role should be formalized under a four-star general, and he has even speculated about creating a bi-national command with Canada called the "Atlantic Command."

The far-reaching nature of the plans being discussed within the Clinton Administration is indicated in the Autumn 1997 Parameters, the scholarly publication of the Army War College. The article predicts that "the growing prospect of terrorism in our own country . . . will almost inevitably trigger an intervention by the military." The article casually adds, "legal niceties or strict construction of prohibited conduct will be a minor concern."

Press Here

130 posted on 09/24/2006 12:02:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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