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US 'harasses' Venezuelan minister
BBC News ^ | September 23, 2006

Posted on 09/23/2006 5:10:08 PM PDT by RWR8189

Venezuela has accused US officials of stopping its foreign minister and stripping him of his travel documents after he visited the UN. President Hugo Chavez said that the minister, Nicolas Maduro, had been questioned about his alleged role in a failed Venezuelan coup attempt in 1992.

"That is absolutely false - he didn't even participate," Mr Chavez, who led the abortive coup, added.

No US comment on the Venezuelan reports was immediately available.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; busdriver; chavez; chavezcabinet; communist; hugochavez; maduro; murderer; thug; thugs; unpunished; venezuela

1 posted on 09/23/2006 5:10:08 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Most afternoons I like to torch up a Maduro.


2 posted on 09/23/2006 5:11:59 PM PDT by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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To: RWR8189
From Article: "President Hugo Chavez said that the minister, Nicolas Maduro, had been questioned about his alleged role in a failed Venezuelan coup attempt in 1992. "That is absolutely false - he didn't even participate," Mr Chavez, who led the abortive coup, added.

You might read "An interesting account of the first coup against Chavez".

3 posted on 09/23/2006 5:16:08 PM PDT by Alia
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To: RWR8189
Ahhhh, just "pants" him and send him home.

Honestly, this whole situation reminds me of "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" where Arthur stops to ask directions from a couple of local peasants who launch into a political harangue. Arthur, frustrated that they won't answer his simple question, tries to shut them up only to have one of them shout "Help, help! I'm being repressed!" So I say to Mr. Chavez and his buddies what Arthur said in this situation: "Bloody peasants!!"

4 posted on 09/23/2006 5:26:02 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
So I say to Mr. Chavez and his buddies what Arthur said in this situation: "Bloody peasants!!"

What a giveaway! Now we see the violence inherent in the system!

5 posted on 09/23/2006 5:28:33 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: RWR8189
Venezuela has accused US officials of stopping its foreign minister and stripping him of his travel documents after he visited the UN.

Absolutely nothing improper in that. According to treaty we have to allow foreign leaders and representatives entry to address the UN and conduct their business there. Once that business is over there is nothing that says we have to let them go anywhere else but the airport.

6 posted on 09/23/2006 5:32:30 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SlowBoat407

Wha? I thought we were an autonomous collective?


7 posted on 09/23/2006 5:33:45 PM PDT by Philistone
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To: RWR8189
I'm digressing a bit here in re Nicolas Maduro, once, a state lawmaker in Venezula.

Something I just read off wikipedia? "Venezuela is one of the five founding members of OPEC"

And from Salon (blogs):

"Rosales is a coward and coup plotter" (Hugo Chavez today, the same man jailed for a staging a bloody coup in 1992)

"Rosales is promoting a coup" (VP Rangel who had praised Rosales the day before for his democratic position)

"Nothing to negotiate, the elections will be on Sunday because the Electoral schedule has been fullfilled" (Cheater Jorge Rodriguez, who has never cared about formalities, now inds them essential)

"Washington designs strategic plans of the opposition" (Nicolas Maduro, star accuser of the Government from his position as President of the National Assembly. Find a case, he can find some evidence agaisnt whomwever is against the Government)

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And I read a bit more at the Salon site:

Snips:

The same should be applied to Chavez, Vice-President Rangel, Governor Diosdado Cabello and the members of the Supreme Court who have allowed for the laws to be violated in such fashion, simply for their own political gain.

While I was shocked reading both Alek's account and that of El Universal's of this program, the dirty feeling and uneasiness you get when using the Maisanta software is truly remarkable. It all starts jokingly, people telling you their ID numbers to "check them", but very quickly turns into a tense situation. The software is flawed, has information that is incorrect, but additionally, it reveals people's very personal information from date of birth, to political preferences, to their electoral history. But I am getting ahead of myself. The Maisanta software was first designed in May 2004 as a tool for Chavez' campaign command to aid in getting the vote out. But in doing so, the gross and obscene violation of the law and the rights of the people implemented by these Government officials is simply incredible and absolutely shocking.

The Maisanta database includes every single registered voter in the country. I am still trying to get the latest version, the one I obtained is from last year, but the point is the same. It is likely the newest version represents simply a deeper and more widespread violation of our rights.

From this, we can have: his address, whether he signed or not to recall Chavez, his date of birth, address (sometimes with telephone), as well as the voting center that he uses. Additionally, he is "rated" as whether he is a good voter or not, based on his recent activity as a voter. Finally, the software is cross-referenced with whether the voter is a member of two of the Government's social missions, Mision Ribas, the program to graduate people from high school in a short time, and Vuelvan Caras, a "œscholarship" by which the Government gives people a monthly stipend to participate in projects to work against poverty and social exclusion

You may wonder how I knew the ID number of the Prosecutor General? Easy, the software has a very cumbersome sequential search tool that finds all of the Isaias Rodriguez' of the country, if by chance you did not know his ID number.

The software comes in a CD; you install it (3 Gbytes) and are ready to go. You don't know anyone that has it? Easy go to Plaza Bolivar in downtown Caracas and for Bs. 3,000 or 4,000 you have your own copy. (The Chavistas distributed over 35,000 of them last year for the recall vote and the regional elections).

This window has lots of information to discriminate, harass, classify and label people near wher you live. You have the ID number, age, whether the person signed petitions against the opposition, against Chavez, whether the person is rated as "opposition", abstainer and in columns not shown, whether the person signed or not against Chavez and if his or her signature were rejected or not. Then in the buttons below, you can print, search, filter according to categories or simply click on the button labeled "patriots". Press that and you only see the true "Aryans" loyal to the process, those that signed against the opposition. These are your revolutionary, fascist buddies, ready to die or whatever for the revolution. In fact, if they are not on your side but they participate in any of the misiones, you can threaten them with removal of their meager perks, if they don't want to follow orders. Cute, immoral and perverse, no?

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I sense a sulphuric odor about Chavez, and the "anti-Patriot Act" movement.

8 posted on 09/23/2006 5:35:25 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Very interesting.


9 posted on 09/23/2006 5:40:19 PM PDT by livius
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To: RWR8189

Maduro is one of the piggiest thugs in Venezuela's Chavista cabinet. He's really gross. He is a former bus driver with no education who once killed a man, did time, and basically got away with it because of his chavista loyalty. Yeah, detail the fxxx at the airport, make him spend a night in the pokey with the perverts. It's where he belongs anyway.


10 posted on 09/23/2006 5:43:44 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: livius
I've posted some more here, if you are interested. It's about Maduro.

A snip:

"It took Chavez quite a while to trust Maduro. To gain the trust Maduro did several things. One was to live maritally with Cilia Flores, a talibanic [emphasis added] pasionara of limited intellect but vociferating abilities and overly dyed red hair. She also was one of the few lawyers that volunteered to help Chavez in 1992. Reports of their trips to the US for shopping sprees, kids on tag, have been numerous."

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11 posted on 09/23/2006 5:56:57 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Thank you....going off to read it now.


12 posted on 09/23/2006 6:00:04 PM PDT by livius
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To: RWR8189; Reaganesque

It's more likely that he lost his travel documents at a strip club.


13 posted on 09/23/2006 6:00:24 PM PDT by American in Singapore (Bill Clinton: The Human Stain)
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To: RWR8189
GOOD!
14 posted on 09/23/2006 6:01:21 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: Kitten Festival
The following takes you to a freeper posted article Authorities investigate terror link - Venezuelan al-Qaida operative, 2003
15 posted on 09/23/2006 6:13:32 PM PDT by Alia
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To: livius
One more: And it's a FReeplink, 2003 about Venezuela and AQ ties.
16 posted on 09/23/2006 6:15:03 PM PDT by Alia
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To: livius

And I thank you for taking the time to learn more. Certainly, these articles were edifying for me.


17 posted on 09/23/2006 6:20:37 PM PDT by Alia
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To: RWR8189

A big mouth little peon from a sh*tty little country with just enough oil to feel arrogant about...His day are numbered.


18 posted on 09/23/2006 6:28:33 PM PDT by hope (Let know one deceive you!!!)
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