Posted on 09/23/2006 5:43:49 AM PDT by eartotheground
It proved right, but at the time it was the wrong decision.
Of course, I could very well be wrong but lets not sit around and pretend that everything was okee dokee and that highly trained flight crews never make the wrong call.
These people are key board-warriors of the highest degree.We're seeing MORE and MORE of that lately; I see it as "idiocy on the rise" as "morons become more vocal and unashamed to exhibit their ignorance in the face of fact and reasoned response".
I think it marks the decline and fall of civilization and the rise of an illiterate generation; we have had it too easy for many year now, and that is manifesting itself now in the intellectual laziness, here on the I-net even.
From the article - clearly a case of "not seeing the memo." The book I read gives a fuller accounting. and the skill of the flyers is just astounding. Can you imagine being in that plane and NO engine noise roar?
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The flight crew had never been trained how to perform the drip calculations. To be safe they re-ran the numbers three times to be absolutely, positively sure the refuelers hadn't made any mistakes;each time using 1.77 pounds/liter as the specific gravity factor. This was the factor written on the refueler's slip and used on all of the other planes in Air Canada's fleet. The factor the refuelers and the crew should have used on the brand new, all-metric 767 was .8 kg/liter of kerosene.
I LOVED my '57 Chevvy, but it was a "gift" from my father, and I had to give it up when I enlisted in '62. It was always titled to his construction company, and I left it became just another company car. It got "rode hard and put up wet", and was junked before I got out three years later.
According to the link in post fifteen, the aircraft was fitted with a replacement engine. On its next flight, it was on the way to Singapore when the replacement engine blew. They continued the flight for another eleven hours and landed safely.
BA = Ballsy Airline
Or to imagine the corporate execs who said "Jolly good show."
Surpise: engines use combustion (and combustable materials, like oil and oil products) to achieve useful work. Sometimes a turbine spins down and the combustion takes place OUTSIDE the engine (ever seen a car backfire?) as the air/mixture moves from the enclosed turmine area into the area just behind the engine.
BTW, the 'engine' itself did not 'burst into flames'; this is a creation those with vivid imaginations and too much 'cartoon' watching generally make.
Okay, I'm outa here, willfully deferring to the multitude of engineers and scientists around the world who daily practice their discipline without resorting to sorcery, incantations, ouiji boards, or touchy-feely self-help groups to perform their jobs ...
You're exactly right! I can't think of another means of communications where it's truer that:
1. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing", and
2. "You can't have a battle of wits with an unarmed person!"
I'm sure the residents of LA would appreciate the smog produced by an unnecceary fuel dump.
LOL!!
"Flying is just a fad... It'll never last"
A line from an old PATCO Controller I work with at in Springfield Ohio.
I've always wondered why they do that as opposed to just a straight, linear route.
Whatever. They were light on fuel at two refuelings; conked out at 30,000 feet and those piolts got it on the ground with no serious injury and minor damage to the plane.
Yes, but they call them 767's
The straight linear route requires tunneling. The Earth is a spheriod. The great circle route is the shortest possible route along the surface of the Earth between two points. If you take a piece of string pull it firmly an place the ends on the origin and destination on a globe, the string will trace a great circle path.
OK, that makes sense.
Heck, you always have enough engine to get you to the crash site.
As I recall, the Douglas DC3 was tested by flying with one engine over the Rockies. I'll bet the 747 could fly, although not easily, with one engine. He had two spares to work with. Some people pay to go bungee jumping or swim with sharks. The pilot was living on the edge and decided to take the passengers along with him.
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