Posted on 09/22/2006 11:50:10 PM PDT by LouAvul
Edited on 09/23/2006 2:12:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Bill Cosby on Friday called on each American to contribute $8 to help build a national slavery museum amid the battlefields of the Civil War.
Cosby, who already has committed $1 million to the project, joined Richmond Mayor L. Douglas Wilder on Friday in launching a new campaign to raise $100 million toward the Fredericksburg museum's $200 million price tag.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
As it will this time. Who cares? Ancient history. It's already gotten several trillion dollars more mileage than it deserved.
It's already been done.
http://www.freedomcenter.org/
Uh, thanks for the call Bill - glad you put your own bread on the table.
But my family got here looooong after this episode of Amrican history, so you won't mind if I don't play ....
The legacy of slavery and the long journey of African Americans is ironically the measure of this nations greatness, especially the unyielding power of it's founding documents.
If this happens Bill, just make certain that it is clear that the NORTH did not engage in that WAR to end slavery.
While the Dec. 1865 ratification of 13th Amendment ended slavery, the attitude and rational for the war was far removed from some lofty goal of ending slavery in the United States of America.
History is pretty clear on this issue:
Lincoln re-affirmed his strong support for gradual emancipation coupled with resettlement in his second annual message to Congress of December 1, 1862 and this proposal had five basic elements:
1. Because slavery was a "domestic institution," and thus the concern of the states alone, they -- and not the federal government -- were to voluntarily emancipate the slaves.
2. Slave-holders would be fully compensated for their loss.
3. The federal government would assist the states, with bonds as grants in aid, in meeting the financial burden of compensation.
4. Emancipation would be carried out gradually: the states would have until the year 1900 to free their slaves.
5. The freed blacks would be resettled outside the United States.
Bottom line: History is pretty rough on many sides and we're stuck with it.
A few more tidbits:
In early 1863, Lincoln discussed with his Register of the Treasury a plan to "remove the whole colored race of the slave states into Texas."
source: 102. N. Weyl and W. Marina, American Statesmen on Slavery and the Negro (1971), pp. 228-229. Source cited: L. E. Chittenden, Recollections of Abraham Lincoln.; Lincoln apparently also gave consideration to setting aside Florida as a black asylum or reservation. See: Paul J. Scheips, "Lincoln ... , " The Journal of Negro History, Vol. 37, No. 4 (October 1952), p. 419.
Note: The resettlement issue should also include some of the plans for East Africa; Haiti; and the area of present day Panama.
How about only people who had ancestors here then should pay. All of my ancestors were in Poland, so we had nothing to do with slavery.
Eight bucks from everyone...riiiiiiiight.
And I might add, neither did the South. The South fought for the issue of states' rights.
$200 million dollars for a building? This seems like a piss poor legacy to slavery. I'm sure when they were on the plantations dreaming of freedom they hoped that someone would flush $200 million down the drain to build a museum in their honor one day.
Bill Cosby has always been outspoken on education being the key to success. I'm surprised that he would propose sinking this much hard earned money into a building instead of putting it into low income school improvement or college funds. You don't need a building to remember your roots - you need well educated people who can participate in the dream and pass down the keys to success to their children.
Black history: Fine
Just Slavery: Not a good idea. IMHO
Darn right! Americans of African descent have done far better in the US than any of their ancesteral cousins have ever done in thier native countries, regardless of the many obstacles within .... America made it right in the long run, and that is something that can never be taken away
Yeah, as I recall, the North went to war to save the Union. THANK GOD THOSE BOYS BEAT THOSE REBS DOWN!
While the Dec. 1865 ratification of 13th Amendment ended slavery, the attitude and rational for the war was far removed from some lofty goal of ending slavery in the United States of America.
That's right! While many of the Abolitionists wanted to free the slaves, the pragmatists (like Lincoln) struggled for what they believed to be an even loftier goal: preserving the Union after the Rebels started the war at Fort Sumter! THANK GOD THEY PREVAILED SO WE COULD ALL LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
History is pretty clear on this issue:
Yes History is clear: despite Lincoln's offer to preserve the Union without freeing the slaves (if that's what it took), the Hot-heads in the Rebel camp couldn't grasp a "victory" when it was staring them in the face. Their pride went before the fall! AND THANK GOD FOR IT, THAT ALL MEN COULD BE FREE!
Lincoln re-affirmed his strong support for gradual emancipation coupled with resettlement in his second annual message to Congress of December 1, 1862 and this proposal had five basic elements...
Yes, you're correct: Lincoln offered up several schemes for resettlement and gradual emancipation. Of course, had the Rebs won (having made their point about the "right to secede", or the "Tariff of Abominations", or the tyranny of the Northern Industrialists, or whatever it was you're trying to tell us the Civil War was really all about), the Confederates would have immediately seen the light, and freed all the slaves. No doubt about it, they would have beaten that tyrant Lincoln's timetable by 35 years!
History speaks for itself. Deo Vindice
ROFL ............. now I'm going to bed.
;-)
Mike Mcconnell (sp) of 700wlw had a story when this opened that some "man on the street" said "what a gyp, its not even underground"
That was too funny (and true)
Yes, once again you're right. In 1860, they said "Deo Vindice", and in 1865 He did, so that you and I could serve in the United States Army, and not the CSA! Praise God!
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