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Cosby: Let's all give $8 each to build slavery museum
CNN & Associated Press ^ | September 22, 2006

Posted on 09/22/2006 11:50:10 PM PDT by LouAvul

Edited on 09/23/2006 2:12:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: stand watie
fyi, NORMAL people think your #316,317 & 318 are a sign that the DAMNyankee coven is "out of touch with reality".

Your grasp on reality has always seemed tenuous at best.

PITY that you don't know that the "unionists" on FR are the forum's main laughingstocks.

You're being much too modest about your own reputation here on FR.

321 posted on 09/28/2006 10:01:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 4CJ; Non-Sequitur; stand watie
The is what I got from my semi-scientific and flawed inquiry. I used the the Ancestry.com records for 1850. I used 1850 instead of 1860 because the 1850 results were searchable by race. In 1850 there was a total of 126,105 free black and mulatto inhabitants of the 11 future CSA states while there was 4,473,012 total inhabitants of those states. The ratio of free blacks to total inhabitants was 2.8%. That ratio might have risen a little in the 1850s, but the 1850s are not known as a period of widespread abolition sentiments in the south. So I agree that the source for most the claimed free black participation in the war would have been people freed during the war itself. But many were freed by the Union army. The Union army claimed the service and allegiance of many of the freed young men. And by the time the handwriting was on the wall, many of the white soldiers were deserting the CSA. It's hard to imagine many newly freed slaves would sign up for a service that the white men were abandoning in droves.
322 posted on 09/28/2006 10:59:27 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I used census data from 1860 available here. It breaks down each race by age groups, then differentiates between free blacks and slave. Even allowing for a large service range of 15 to 39 you just don't come up with that many potential candidates, only about 22,000. Where the source of this mystical 100,000 free black confederate soldier figure comes from, if not from stand watie's over-extended imagination, is beyond me.

As for mass emancipations during the war I haven't seen word one indicating that happened. If anything southern plantation owners tried to hang on to their chattel as long as they could. No legislature had the power to emancipate, the confederate congress didn't either. So it beats me where they come up with their figures. 4CJ tosses out stuff about problems with modern day census and I guess we're supposed to accept that it was far worse back then.

323 posted on 09/28/2006 11:13:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
i won't argue with your figures IF you admit that a LARGE percentage (like about 40%!) were NOT enumerated in any census.

otherwise, your post is NONSENSE, being based on FALSE data & principles.

free dixie,sw

324 posted on 09/28/2006 2:16:02 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie; Colonel Kangaroo
won't argue with your figures IF you admit that a LARGE percentage (like about 40%!) were NOT enumerated in any census.

OK, let's say for the sake of arguement that the census undercounted free blacks by 40%. Even then that would mean that there were, maybe, 30,000 free blacks of military age instead of 22,000. All that means is that every single free black male of military age would have had to enlist 3 and 1/3rd times to reach your 100,000 figure instead of 5 times.

325 posted on 09/28/2006 3:33:34 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
what you seem NOT to understand is that your FIGURES are based on NOTHING but NONSENSE!

the SERVICE RECORDS of the 100K Black volunteers EXIST. do you REALLY believe that someone in 1861-65 made those records up, just to fool YOU???

laughing AT all REVISIONIST, idiotic DAMNEDyankees.

free dixie,sw

326 posted on 09/29/2006 8:24:52 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
what you seem NOT to understand is that your FIGURES are based on NOTHING but NONSENSE!

My figures are based on census data. Your figures are based on nothing.

the SERVICE RECORDS of the 100K Black volunteers EXIST. do you REALLY believe that someone in 1861-65 made those records up, just to fool YOU??

They point out somwhere on the web where someone can see an example of ANY confederate service record from ANY state and ANY regiment. It doesn't have to be a black soldier, any soldier will do. One would expect that someone somewhere would have put one out on the web. So come up with a site because I can't find any.

The fact of the matter is that nobody made anything up except you. Those 100,000 free black soldiers and their service records exist nowhere except in your imagination.

327 posted on 09/29/2006 8:36:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
LOL AT you.

NOBODY (with the possible exception of the DUMBEST of the DUMBbunnies of the "DY coven") believes your PROPAGANDA any more.

back you into a corner & all you have is NONSENSE & REVISIONIST blather.

the RECORDS exist. Dr Blackerby lists their ACTUAL location in his famous book BLACKS IN BLUE & GRAY.

that book is HATED by all DAMNyankee, LEFTISTS & REVISIONISTS, because it points out that the "crusade against slavery" was anything BUT that. it was an invasion, without JUST cause, of the new dixie nation ONLY for $$$$$, political POWER & lincoln's EGOMANIA.

free dixie,sw

328 posted on 09/29/2006 8:43:03 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
the RECORDS exist. Dr Blackerby lists their ACTUAL location in his famous book BLACKS IN BLUE & GRAY.

In other words no confederate service records for any single rebel soldier can be found online> Surprise, surprise. I don't know why I bother asking. No wait, I do know why. Because it's so much fun seeing just what whopper you'll come up with in reply. Your imagination knows no bounds, does it?

329 posted on 09/29/2006 1:14:29 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
when are you going to GET THE MESSAGE??? NOTHING of importance about the WBTS (and most every other subject!) is available on=line.

expecting that sort of data to be on the "worldwidewierd" is like expecting to do dissertation research from a COMIC BOOK.

the fact is that you KNOW BETTER than that SILLINESS! (unlike most of "the DAMNyankee coven", you are neither a DUNCE and/or UNEDUCATED!)laughing AT your PITIFUL first try.

free dixie,sw

330 posted on 09/29/2006 2:17:18 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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331 posted on 09/29/2006 2:35:04 PM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: stand watie
when are you going to GET THE MESSAGE??? NOTHING of importance about the WBTS (and most every other subject!) is available on=line.

Why? Because anything on line can be checked and your fairy tales exposed? Anything of value on any subject you care to name has been posted on line. Anything except that which exists in your imagination that is.

332 posted on 09/29/2006 2:36:33 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
frankly, i thought you were SMARTER than to believe that ANYTHING could be seriously researched "on line".

the worldwidewierd is FILLED with gossip,BILGE,conspiracy theories, falseness, IGNORANCE of facts & is also "the home" of INTENTIONALLY FALSE nonsense, put there to FOOL the FOOLISH.

care to comment, before i start laughing AT you (i spend a good deal of my time on FR laughing AT how STUPID & IGNORANT the members of "the DAMNyankee coven" DEMONSTRABLY are)???

free dixie,sw

333 posted on 09/29/2006 2:44:23 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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