Posted on 09/21/2006 7:28:16 PM PDT by NCjim
The Enemy Within: From the beginning, the American Civil Liberties Union has aligned itself with America's adversaries. Its unrelenting strategy has been to twist our Constitution into a weapon against American values and security.
ACLU founder and longtime executive director Roger Baldwin's infamous quote still haunts his organization today, a quarter-century after the radical activist's death:
"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
It's a statement that's been repeated and reprinted so many times, some Americans might be numbed rather than outraged upon hearing it again. But it's no urban legend. The man who started the organization that claims to be the leading safeguard of the U.S. Constitution did say it, along with plenty of statements mirroring those sentiments.
Baldwin was already steeped in communist thought when in the late 1910s he jump-started the American Union Against Militarism, which was established to oppose the U.S. effort in World War I. Within the AUAM — the progenitor of the ACLU — Baldwin formed the Bureau of Conscientious Objectors to defend war resisters. He also joined the anti-war socialist People's Council.
In 1918, Baldwin pleaded guilty to his own draft dodging and was sentenced to a year in prison. He told his local draft board he refused to perform military service and "any service whatever designed to help the war." He opposed the draft in principle, during war or peacetime, or "for any purpose whatsoever."
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"ACLU founder and longtime executive director Roger Baldwin's infamous quote still haunts his organization today, a quarter-century after the radical activist's death:
"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal." "
Well, nothing has changed since it's inception................................
If the ACLU did not bring a lawsuit against LOGAN airport for racial profiling pre-9/11/01, and the climate of political cowardice did dictate the then-current climate, Bush's biggest problem on 9/22/06 would likely be mid-term elections.
Roger Baldwin made that quote in 1987.
...the ACLU is doing the job that Conservatives should be doing...and that is a sad fact.
The goal of the ACLU is to use our freedoms and (to distort) our generous legal system to the absurd extreme against us, and undermine the country. I wouldn't say Conservatives are doing this, but REPUBLICAN'Ts like McCain and Graham ARE doing just that with these suicidal interrogation rule changes.
mis-type. He died in 1981.
Bill O'Reilly is a registered Independent, and has continually proclaimed his party allegiance since The Factor's inception. These facts are well known public knowledge. The only "public" that views O'Reilly as a conservative- are liberals.
Here is the FULL quote which earned him eternal infamy: Here is the full quotation:
“I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. It all sums up into one single purpose -- the abolition of dog-eat-dog under which we live. I don't regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it.”
I think his anti communist actions were a smokescreen to protect his ass, quite frankly. For example, he joined the battle against McCarthy in the 50s, after, I believe, he knew what the outcome would be, and felt safe.
Conservative is not party. Conservatism began as a Libertarian movement. There are many Independent as well as Libertarian and Republican Conservatives.
Sure, and NAMBLA equates the Lutheran Church.
No, the law would have equated the Lutheran Church.
Is that a fact? Has the Lutheran Church ever expoused the serial killing of anyone, much less that of/by BTK? NO! Does NAMBLA expouse the serial rape of children? YES! Now, mugs99- can you discern the difference in comparsion?
I gave you the facts of the case. You obviously have a reading comprehension problem.
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Thank you for the studious effort. I just may need a bit more skoolin'.
"In the 1930s, Congress investigated the ACLU and found it to be "closely affiliated with the communist movement in the United States, and fully 90% of its efforts are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with the law." According to the congressional investigation's conclusion, "It claims to stand for free speech, free press and free assembly, but it is quite apparent that the main function of the ACLU is to attempt to protect the communists in their advocacy of force and violence to overthrow the government."
Sure, we can say that. And we can work to change things. But let's keep our facts straight to make sure we have the credibility to win.
I noticed I gave you the date for the wrong quote. It's from the interview in '27.
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